Jaysen's Helms 24

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Thanks GB. Spent the weekend and first section of this week with my son as he prepares for an extended overseas duty station. It was nice to get to see him for a week, but we are pretty glad he is back to the base. I guess we have adapted to the empty nest.

Started pulling winches off today. I will not show pictures as it is depressing how long it took to remove 4 bolts.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Currently working on making a Helms 24 our coastal cruiser.
“Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens” wrote:Eat a live frog first thing in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day.
Jaysen wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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8400

Bwahahahahaha!

It was a terrifying adventure. Screw-driver chiseled the base/posts out of the 4200 bedding. Only ate 1 screwdriver. The actual chisels are a lost cause. Only needed the sledge 2x. I’m lucky I decided to replace all the working winches as we have the following casualties:
2 bent posts
3 retaining screws broken in posts
1 retaining screw cross threaded
2 bases cracked
1 drum cracked

Basically none of the winches were any good. Better to find out this way than when a high load smashes one to pieces.

Friday I hope to drill and test mount all the new ones. I still need to fill the old holes but that will need to wait a day or two after drilling. You’re asking “why is he stupid?”

It turns out they never filled the voids between the cabin liner and the cabin top. This hits 3 of my 4 winches. I’m not going to try to clear all the 4200 out of the old holes as it will act as a dam so I can inject some thickened epoxy in around my new holes. Once that’s dried I’ll drill the old holes up a size and then fill them. That should give me a lot more strength than the existing core ... air.

Anyone see my problems with my crazy plan?
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Currently working on making a Helms 24 our coastal cruiser.
“Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens” wrote:Eat a live frog first thing in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day.
Jaysen wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Holes drilled
Old holes filled
4200 slathered
Bases fit and bedded!

8426
8427
8428
8429

Heading to BBC Friday to get “stuff”. But she could leave the dock today (if the weather was better).
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Currently working on making a Helms 24 our coastal cruiser.
“Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens” wrote:Eat a live frog first thing in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day.
Jaysen wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Look forward to seeing you on Friday afternoon!!! I hope you can get her out today!! Jeff

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Winds I bit high for “first time moving” her. She has a big fat wind profile and I want to make sure I know how she handles a bit before jeopardizing my neighbor’s boats.

Friday should be fun. Can’t wait to meet y’all in person.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Currently working on making a Helms 24 our coastal cruiser.
“Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens” wrote:Eat a live frog first thing in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day.
Jaysen wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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FORT PIERCE FLORIDA - ALERT! ALERT! ALERT! LOCK UP YOUR ANIMALS AND KEEP YOUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN INDOORS! JAYSEN IS COMING THIS FRIDAY!!!!
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Nice work Jayson, sounds like it was a bear, way to power & hammer through it!

Small thing but something I'd put on my list, if it were me, is to find a different cleat setup. The angle coming off the winch is nearly vertical and they seem like they could give a person a pretty good poke in the back/side/face if you let your guard down. IMO, a plain horn cleat mounted on the top of the side deck would be preferable. That said, I'm sure they will work for you as-is.
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VT Jeff,

The angle is exaggerated in the photo. You are 100% on the back stabbing. I have proof. My hope is that those winches you’re looking to unload are self tailing or I will be moving the cam cleats and winches aft to allow easier single handing. The cleats would mount on risers addressing mounted on at 50% drum height angled to tiller.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Currently working on making a Helms 24 our coastal cruiser.
“Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens” wrote:Eat a live frog first thing in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day.
Jaysen wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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cape man wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:44 pm FORT PIERCE FLORIDA - ALERT! ALERT! ALERT! LOCK UP YOUR ANIMALS AND KEEP YOUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN INDOORS! JAYSEN IS COMING THIS FRIDAY!!!!
Jaysen will be escorted by his primary handler who shall ensure adequate weighted skillets are on hand.
My already completed 'Lil Bit'. A Martens Goosen V12 set up to sail me to the fishing holes.
Currently working on making a Helms 24 our coastal cruiser.
“Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens” wrote:Eat a live frog first thing in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day.
Jaysen wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:44 pm I tried to say something but God thought I was wrong and filled my mouth with saltwater. I kept my pie hole shut after that.

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Jaysen wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 4:48 pm VT Jeff,

The angle is exaggerated in the photo. You are 100% on the back stabbing. I have proof. My hope is that those winches you’re looking to unload are self tailing or I will be moving the cam cleats and winches aft to allow easier single handing. The cleats would mount on risers addressing mounted on at 50% drum height angled to tiller.

My winches are self-tailing, as in you need to tail them your self.

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