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Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:29 pm
by cedarock
I almost forgot how much fun it is to see a boat come together from a stack of plywood and some epoxy!

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Here is the backbone of the little boat......I picked it up on Thursday and with Bateau's great service and quick shipment of the supplies, I was able to start on Friday evening. Running into snags is part of the fun to me, keeping me on my toes! Check out the gap under the transom end on the next pic!

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I walked around, measured.....walked around some more......measured.......I know I used a chalk line, it is supposed to flat from the transom to about 6 inches in front of the middle seat! Why in the world is it teeter totting under the middle seat! :doh: Something triggered me to put the level on the floor.....wouldn't you know it, the floor is level to that point and then slopes to the garage door! The only other stupid thing of the day was when I ran a drywall screw through the side of full jug of epoxy that was holding the panels upright. I didn't even know it until I started to see a puddle of epoxy at my feet! :lol:

I do have something that I will have to address and my options are limited. The plans has the transom height at the clamping point at 19 7/8 inches. After installing the floor, I suppose, it would be 20 1/4 inches. I want to use a 15 inch motor and made the transom about 16 inches tall giving me 15 inches vertical to the plane of the boat bottom. I think that is how I did it with the fs12 and it runs with the anti-cavitation plate even with the bottom! It is not here, so, I can't measure it to see. Anyway, in the next pic you can see my dilemma!

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The rear frame is 14 1/2 inches tall. I will have maybe 2 inches to clamp the outboard on, which will not be enough. I will either have to cut down the rear seat, which I really don't want to do or cut a rectangle out of the rear seat in front of the clamping location. I am not opposed to that and if I do, I will make it large enough to shove a portable tank in there and fill both corners of the compartment with flotation.......like I did with the fs12. Of course, I would double or triple the tape for the rest of the transom to rear seat joint if I have to go that route. Hopefully, I am wrong about the height of the transom and can add a little to it and make it work.....I like the full rear seat and originally planned for flotation in the middle leaving enough room on the side to slide a portable tank in there. I will be able to measure my motor this weekend and know for sure, but if anyone has any suggestions, please throw them at me!

The boat is looking great and seems large for a 14 foot boat. Can't wait to see it come together!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:48 pm
by BassinVt
it will teater anyways because of the design of the boat, once you get it all together, ive seen in this forum were people will screw the floor down to a saw horse, so the bow pops up properly, then you do all your inside glueing. someone chime in on this if im correct or not please, i no thats what im planning on doing, then prop up my bow with bricks and boards to keep the rear flat. im working on the 16, good luck with your build

tim

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:06 pm
by cedarock
Thanks Tim......you are right! I couldn't get the flat section to touch the floor evenly when lifting the bow, but it was due to the floor. I have it upside down now and an eight foot straight edge confirmed that I am okay. Good luck with your 16.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:19 pm
by gstanfield
Hopefully Cracker Larry will reply. He's built a few of these GF hulls

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:35 am
by BassinVt
lets get some more pictures of the build on here cedarock!! lol


BassinVt wrote:it will teater anyways because of the design of the boat, once you get it all together, ive seen in this forum were people will screw the floor down to a saw horse, so the bow pops up properly, then you do all your inside glueing. someone chime in on this if im correct or not please, i no thats what im planning on doing, then prop up my bow with bricks and boards to keep the rear flat. im working on the 16, good luck with your build

tim

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:56 pm
by chicagoross
I'm amazed at how many boat builds show a Toyota Tacoma in the drive...Jacques should take that as the towability standard... :D

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:37 pm
by cedarock
I'm sorry Tim....this is all I have! :lol: Hope to speed things up a bit, but doubt it. It has been slow going for me but hopefully tomorrow evening, I will loosen the frame screws a bit and be able to tack the bottom on and then flip it back over on Sunday and start gluing and glassing the frames in!

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chicagoross wrote:I'm amazed at how many boat builds show a Toyota Tacoma in the drive...Jacques should take that as the towability standard... :D
:lol: :lol: :lol: Hope you are doing well Chicago!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:52 pm
by BassinVt
nice clean cuts, definately better than my cutting. looking good bro, keep up the good work.

tim

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:45 pm
by cedarock
Thanks Tim....this building process is very forgiving! You are doing great.......I haven't noticed any bad cuts on you're build. I hope to start gluing the frames late weekend!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:39 pm
by cedarock
The rainy weather changed my plans and kept me home this weekend, so I was able to get some done today! :) Started removing the frames and taped the chine last night.

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This morning, I cut the rub rails off and shaped up the rub rail and transoms.

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Then, the frames are back in and taped and bottom glassed.

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I epoxied my self right out of that middle seat! :lol: I will have to get it in the morning before flipping. I am thinking about laying two layers of biaxal on the bottom but not absolutely sure! I guess I better decide......something to ponder over this evening. I also need to think about floatation and paint.

Man, that picture quality is bad. They are from a phone.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:34 pm
by BassinVt
ceda, dont feel bad, my blackberry sucks also!! I thought i had a bow problem, cut wrong or something, just old eyes and a bad phone. looking good bro

tim

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:51 pm
by cedarock
Glad you got your bow issue settled Tim and hope you were able to get some done with the rainy conditions.

The outside glassing is done and the spray rail and runners are glued all wet on wet. I went with two layers on the bottom.....I think that it will make it easier to fair because I ran each layer from the tape at the chine over six inches on the opposing side. I am going to use graphite on the bottom and will probably have to get more epoxy. :x I was hoping to go light on this one but I got happy with the chip brushes! :)

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Joel.....I just realized that I started this thread in the wrong section. Feel free to move it to small boat builders if you see fit!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:46 pm
by peter-curacao
cedarock wrote:
Joel.....I just realized that I started this thread in the wrong section. Feel free to move it to small boat builders if you see fit!
I don't think you are in the wrong section, the gf 14b is listed under power boats not small boats :wink: you are doing a fine job there 8)

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:10 pm
by BassinVt
:D well you definately pulled ahead of me!! nice job ceda. my progress this last week has been zilch. Ive been pulling doubles at work. we have a new exhibit coming in to the aquarium and we just ripped down one that was leaving, now all the clean up happens. electrical, painting, sheet rock work. come monday we start unloading the two semi's that will be parked in my parking lot at 7a.m. so this week and next wont be good for working on the boat. the weather has been extremely cold and windy, and rain, we had snow yesterday and expecting more tonight!! yuck.. the next few days wont be good at all for weather. but there saying sunday, its going to start warming back up into the high 50s low 60s and all sun, yeah baby. 8) keep up the good work, looking really good bro.

tim

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:22 pm
by cedarock
Thanks guys! Sorry about your weather Tim but good boat building days will be coming soon and you will roll and look forward to seeing the results. We have had perfect weather in NC but I have slowed. I can only take so much sanding at a time! :lol:

Peter, I have enjoyed following your build thread....you are creating a masterpiece!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:33 pm
by BassinVt
looking good cedar, the weather is starting to turn back slowly, outlook looks like another week and we should be back into the 60s. Hope the build is going well.

tim

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:02 pm
by Rapchizzle
I'm interested to see how you'll have the water draining out. I see the two holes under the frame of the rear seat and am curious as to what the plan is. I'm looking at building a GF14 as well and will be paying close attention to your build.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:54 pm
by cedarock
RP.....I cut 1/2 of a 11/4" inch hole four inches in from the corners of all frames to allow the water to get to the rear. I am using a single drain in the middle of the transom with a cutout in the rear deck in front of the engine to access the drain plug. I want access to the plug when underway but already frustrated with having water gathering in the corners and it hasn't seen water yet! :lol: She is going to be simple with no hatches....just cut outs in the seats and front deck. I managed to get about 3/4 of the two gallon foam kit poured in the upper corners of the rear and mid seats. I will post some pics soon!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:50 pm
by cedarock
A little update......I have sanded all I am going to sand on the gf and coated with a final two coats of epoxy!

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I put three coats of primer on this past weekend and waiting for it to cure.

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I used some of the features that Larry built on his gf....the dowel rods between the seat frames and the perch for the depth finder! Thanks Larry...they will be very useful.

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She is going to be simple with just cutouts and a small deep cycle for the depth finder under the mid seat!

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This new picture stuff is nice and user friendly by the way!

Going to put on some paint early next week, I hope and then have to figure out where to put some rod holders.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:04 pm
by MR GOTWOOD
Very nice! And speedy build to. Can't wait to see it float!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:38 pm
by Cracker Larry
That looks great :!: Nothing wrong with simple for a boat like that. Very nice.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:49 pm
by cedarock
Thanks GW......I feel good about it, only had to order an extra 3 quart epoxy kit with two layers of 12oz on the bottom and runners. 4oz woven on all other exposed wood with the exception of the spray rails, which I probably should have! Still have about one half of the 3 quart epoxy left....getting better with the epoxy for sure but much room for improvement! :)

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:55 pm
by cedarock
Thanks Larry.....have always liked your gf16 and is probably what sent me over the edge to build a gf! I am sure that I will hook up to it more than the other two for the fishing that I do most of the time. Nice design!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:53 am
by Southern Gent
Nice build out. You are going to enjoy fishing out of this boat.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:47 pm
by BassinVt
looking great there cedar, cant wait to see you splash it!! tim

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:25 pm
by cedarock
Thanks guys! Nearing the end and I hope to launch in two weeks. I have to roll on some ultra tuff on the sole, mount a couple seats and rold holders, and a depth finder and she will done. Oh....and get a hull ID number from Wildlife.

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I glassed in a piece of pvc cut in half to run wires from the stearn to the bow.

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I wish I would have taken the blue all the way to the tip of the bow but it is too late! I am not much on paint scheme design but it will be okay.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:11 pm
by gstanfield
Looks good to me :D

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:55 pm
by BassinVt
I like it!! nice work bro, get those electronics on, and get her splashed

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:46 pm
by Irish
Looks great Cedarock, That is a nice simple layout.
Where are you locating your fuel tank and what paint did you use.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:16 pm
by cedarock
Thanks guys!!!! Irish, I am using a 3 gallon tank with a 15hp engine and I will slide it under the rear deck through the opening in front of the transom. I made the opening large enough for a 6 gallon tank from somewhere but can't remember where I saw it now! :lol: I probably will just use the 3 gallon tank anyway. The paint is easypoxy by pettit. Off white and bikini blue. It was rolled on with a foam roller and tipped with a paint dampened foam brush. I really like that paint for the money and my experience with it has proven it will last a long time! The decks got some grit from bateau mixed in the off white.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:10 am
by Cracker Larry
The paint is easypoxy by pettit. Off white and bikini blue. It was rolled on with a foam roller and tipped with a paint dampened foam brush. I really like that paint for the money and my experience with it has proven it will last a long time!
I really like that paint also. It's very good for the money, applies easy and holds up well. Nice color scheme 8)

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:16 am
by wegcagle
I like that color scheme a lot cedarock 8) That was one fast and well built boat. Great job. On my GV15 I used the 2 part S3 paint, and it has already started to crack and my dang boat has never seen water :x After reading all of the reviews I am also going to use easypoxy. I haven't heard a bad thing about it.

Will

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:11 am
by topwater
They have a new version out now called easypoxy2 . suppose to be real easy to use. I was thinking of trying it
out on the inside of my cabin first to see how i like it before i choose a paint for the rest of the boat.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:56 pm
by cedarock
Thanks guys......that makes me feel better about the color scheme! Will.....I have sanded off my share of s3 paint and it is frustrating to say the least! I don't think it is very durable in the South. The only bad reviews I have seen on the easypoxy is that some think it is hard to apply ( messy rather). I just don't get it. I use the cheap foam brushes and roller covers and throw them away....it don't clean up with water but rubber gloves will keep it off of me. BTW, that was only two coats....it covers well! I did use the s3 primer....like that a lot.

I applied some easypoxy on the transom and bottom after I glassed over a tunnel on a boat that I used to own back in the late 80's. The boat was a 1988 model and I just didn't like how it performed with a tunnel! I kept it for several years and eventually sold it to a friend. Shortly after I finished the hm in 08, we visited that friend at the coast and I saw the boat and checked out how the repair was doing and I couldn't believe how well that paint was holding up! It was in a somewhat protected area that gets no foot traffic or scraping from beaching, but it looked better than the original gel coat around it. I am sure that there are plenty of paints that give a better finish and are easier to apply but I like it for the money. I can't figure out what it is with the s3 paint and the south but several of us have had issues with it and then there are several that like it a lot! Go figure!

That sounds like a good plan topwater!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:49 am
by peter-curacao
[quote="cedarock"Image[/quote] 8) SWEET!! 8)

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:49 pm
by cedarock
I rolled the first coat of ultra tuff on the sole this evening and it didn't cover at all! It was left over from 08 when I built the fs12 and is a sand color. I remember having a time to get it to cover on the fs 12, mainly on the vertical surfaces, and having to cover it in an oil based paint to be satisfied. I think that something was wrong with it back then and four years later it is worse! I did read tonight that it only has a one year shelf life! :D So..... my fault! It might have been on the shelf for a year when I bought it making it five or six years old now. I used a different color on the sole of the hm in a different color, knowing it would just be on the sole where I could apply it thicker, and it covered well and seems to be durable! :doh:

So I scraped what I could off with a putty knife and cleaned it up before it had a chance to cure and now have to figure something else out......either order some kiwi from bateau or paint the sole with textured easypoxy. I am leaning towards painting the sole with textured bikini blue easypoxy. I think that if I use the off white, it will be really bright in the direct sun! It is bright enough now. But then again......textured off white might knock the glare down too!

Any suggestions? I have plenty of both paints and additive!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:57 pm
by cedarock
I don't know....might just use the off white! Notice the difference in shine on the rear deck in this pic!

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I think that would tone it down enough and with navy seats, a blue sole might be too much blue and hot on the tootsies too!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:53 pm
by cedarock
I decided to order some kiwi and I was impressed with how easy it went on! :) I started applying it a little thin but once I got in a groove, it was nice. It covers well and I have enough left out of two quarts to cover it again down the road.

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She is done and ready for launch! I made the transom 17" tall, which is what I did on the fs12 and it worked well for a 15 inch motor. I hope that the little bit of deadrise on the fs doesn't make it perform different, causing cavitation in the turns on the gf. I think I will wait to bolt it on and just clamp it on for now! Sure would hate to cut through the glass on top of the transom.

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Anyway, I will post a launch thread next week unless I come back in shame! :)

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:02 pm
by gstanfield
She is a looker for sure, I'm sure the splash will go great. Congrats 8)

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:47 pm
by cedarock
Thanks George! I am looking forward to Saturday morning for sure.

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:31 pm
by tobolamr
Nicely built! I am looking forward to your performance/splash report!

Re: Cedarock's gf14

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:38 pm
by cedarock
She has been launched and I think it is going to be a wonderful boat! Continued in the "finished boat" section.

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