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Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:03 pm
by garym
1st and last time I wore this getup!

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:07 pm
by Cracker Larry
LMAO :lol: :lol: I can't do it either :!: Boat looks great! You, not so much :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:09 pm
by garym
Bottom Painted - Ready for topcoat

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:11 pm
by garym
Ready to Flip.

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:12 pm
by garym
The Flip.

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:16 pm
by garym
The helpers - Maybe a bad choice of words!

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:19 pm
by garym
A little advise on the top edge of the transom.
Already painted. Should I be wraping glass over the 1.5" edge. And the answer is (Yes)

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Thats all for now. More to follow.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:30 pm
by Cracker Larry
Yes :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 7:42 pm
by snookiehunter
Looking good, Gary. Keep it up. Did you get the outta whack, back in whack?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:50 pm
by garym
My whack is back on track :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:12 pm
by garym
Getting ready to cut the holes for the chase tubes. Was wondering if its ok to cut down through the floor frames and then cap on either side with the battens or should I cut the pipe into three pieces and use couplers?

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:36 pm
by garym
Glassed over the top of my nicely painted transom.
Now its got the F-Uglies.

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:47 pm
by pee wee
garym wrote:Getting ready to cut the holes for the chase tubes. Was wondering if its ok to cut down through the floor frames and then cap on either side with the battens or should I cut the pipe into three pieces and use couplers?
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Yes, it's better to cut the pipe than the frames.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:38 am
by garym
Put my wife to work over the weekend.

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she out fishes me and probably is a better boat builder. How embarrasing. :lol:

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Anybody know why I can't get the image to display in the post???

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:41 am
by Cracker Larry
Don't cut through the top of the frames! Use a hole saw and drill through the center of them.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:45 am
by garym
See the next post - All of the tubes are in.

The pics are not showing in the post anymore. Must have had a brain fart!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:49 am
by Cracker Larry
:D

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:52 am
by garym
How'd you do that?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:21 am
by Cracker Larry
Open the picture full size in your gallery. Right click on it and select "Copy image location". Paste the link in your reply, highlight it, then click on the box above that says "Img"

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:24 pm
by garym
Got all battens glued in place. I should have coated everything with neat epoxy before I glued them in but I like to do things the hard way. The hot melt glue idea for holding the battens in place was genious. The boat would have taken an extra month without that little trick.
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Should start pouring foam later this week. My preference is not to overfill the spaces. CL suggested trimming with a hand saw.
Not sure how you do that close to the sides?

We will see how it goes.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:15 pm
by garym
Got The foam installed
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Had the helper do a little cleanup
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Dry Fitted the sole
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Coated the underside of the sole and would have had a beer with them but they are to young :D
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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:37 pm
by garym
The sole is all glued down and I should have the screw holes filled this evening.
The plan is to tape the seams and sole to the sides of the hull tomorrow.

YAHOOOOOOO

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:09 pm
by pee wee
Congratulations! That's a good milepost, getting the sole glued down. :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:11 pm
by Walkers Run
pee wee wrote:Congratulations! That's a good milepost, getting the sole glued down. :D
x2 :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:23 pm
by Cracker Larry
This is exactly what I need :D :D

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:20 pm
by garym
I think they will work for food.
Might sound good but they eat a lot.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:10 pm
by garym
Got a few hours in on Saturday. Taped around the outer edges of the sole and over the seams where the sole panels meet.
The plan is to do some sanding along the tape edges during the week and glass the sole by next weekend. After that I will start installing frames D & E.

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The plan is to kiwigrip the sole. Will the 6" tape bump be noticeable through the Kiwigrip :doh:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:10 am
by AtTheBrink
I would fair that joint just to make sure it wasn't noticeable.

Those helpers of yours sure got the job done!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:50 am
by garym
They vansished shortly after the picture was taken.
Thanks for the advise. I'll knock all of the edges down b4 I glass the sole. After the sole ia glassed will see what it looks like and then fair if necessary.

Thx

Gary

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:17 pm
by garym
Here's the weekly update.
Glassed in Frames D&E. Sanded and coated the interior spaces with the 1st coat of pigmented epoxy.
Not sure how some of you guys work so neat and clean. I have drips, lumps. bumbs and smears every where I look.
I must be the biggest slob on the planet. :lol:

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Off to Orlando for the week for some cool weather. Its hot here in New York :D

I'll have to work extra hard when I get back.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:26 pm
by garym
Glued down the rear platform. I will be covering the entire surface with 50" 4oz woven.
I'm not sure if I can skip the taping part although I suspect the answer is NO.

Okay the answer is NO. Should I use 10oz biax or can I use the 4 oz woven?

The plans call for 4oz on the front casting platform. I think I might need the heavier tape becuase of the engine load.

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:24 pm
by AtTheBrink
The heavier tape sure wont hurt, except when it comes to fairing it.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:10 am
by garym
Thx mike. I have plenty of fairing to do so a little more wont be a big deal.
If I can get away with 4" that would be my preference. Easier to wet out and fair.
I will repost this in the help section.

Thx

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:43 pm
by garym
Put the 2nd coat of pigmented epoxy in the 2 bow compartments.

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Taped the all the edges on the stern platform.

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Will try to mount the fuel tanks hoses and vents and finish the decking on the bow by the end of the week.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:35 pm
by garym
Not sure how I feel about this. Going to have to marinate on it.

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Thats A Lot of Hatches.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:57 pm
by AtTheBrink
Yep! That's alot of hatches! My opinion, Too many. You could get by with two less.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:25 pm
by garym
Really funny. I was just talking to my wife and said exactly the same thing.

For now it be what it be. :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:54 pm
by garym
After marinating overnight I like the fact that I have multiple access to the storage compartment however I would have done it a little differently. I would leave the hatch behind the motor well and put the 2 hatches on the sides into the face of the frame.
I think that would have looked a little nicer.

I find myself saying next boat a lot. :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:08 pm
by peter-curacao
Why next boat and not close the two holes and make it the way you really want, if I may ask?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:22 pm
by garym
Juggling a business, young children, my wife, life and an october 31st self imposed deadline my mantra is don't look back.

Besides it doesn't bug me to the point that its worth the extra work.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:49 pm
by AtTheBrink
Changing up your hatches could always be an easy little winter weekend project. It looks good enough to fish right now!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:25 pm
by peter-curacao
AtTheBrink wrote:Changing up your hatches could always be an easy little winter weekend project.
Or a 2 hour job :wink:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:27 pm
by garym
Had a productive week.

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Have some more glassing on the rub rails, Glue and tab down the console, install the cockpit drains and then on to fairing.

That means i'll be fairing in 2-3 weeks.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:32 pm
by garym
Installed the backing plate for the bow eye.
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Cut the frames. ****Have a ?? about how they are glassed ****
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Sanded and routed over the outside edge after the photo

Installed the blocking for the cockpit drains. Needs a little sanding

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Will try to glass all of the above this weekend weather permitting

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:25 pm
by garym
Ready for fairing.

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Yahooooooo :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:57 am
by garym
Fairing continues. Have my second coat on. Using a brush for the boarder around the sole and console. Only coming out 2-3 inches because I'll be coating the balance with kiwi grip. going heavy here to fill major dips and fill the weave.

The rest is getting coated with the cracker larry fairing mix and a foam roller. Resin, blended filler, rum and ground up saltine crackers for good luck.

I will need a few more coats before I switch to quick fair.

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Drilled for the cockpit drains. The blocking worked nicely. Still have to cut and use the flairing tool.

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Still have some light sanding to do on coat 2 and then its on to 3.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:07 am
by Shamrock Kid
Looks good I like seeing progress made it helps me light a fire under me arse. :lol: I've been under the weather the last three days. Hoping to get at it this weekend. Seeing your work gets me back into the spirit, thanks.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:14 pm
by garym
Glad to be of service.
Feel better and post lots of pictures as you progress.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:12 pm
by garym
Spent the past few days spreading the epoxy blended filler mix to fill the weave. Think I'm going to stop messing around and move on to quick fair. At one point when glassing the frames below deck I ran out of 6" tape so I stripped up some 50" biax to finish up.
The 50" biax has a much tighter weave then the tape and I had no problems making the bends. If I had to do it again I would have used the same on some of the exposed areas inside. I think the end result would be smoother and not require as much fairing.

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Any comments, tips or shortcuts would be appreciated.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:20 pm
by Cracker Larry
Your fairing mix is too thin. First coat goes on thin, next one thicker, next one thicker, creamy peanut butter. Then it should be pretty good. You are right about the tape, the 12 oz tape I've been getting lately is not nearly as tight as the 12 oz cloth, and it's a b@tch to fill.

Edit: It also looks from here like you didn't sand down the binder threads before you started fairing. Are you sanding between coats?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:55 pm
by garym
I have been sanding between coats but I didn't really want to go at it until the threads were filled. Will sand heavily before the next coat and then go chunky on the next fairing batch.

Thx again - Hope things are settling down for you a bit.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:13 pm
by garym
Sanded the interior yesterday and most of the boat looked like this.

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Mixed up some peanut butter and applied to a small area near the bow.

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Definatly filled the weave better than the prior attempts. Very happy that it didn't run, Curious to see how it sands.

If I go this route I will need a couple hundred pounds of blended filler. :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:22 pm
by Cracker Larry
:lol: :lol: I used a half pound on the outside, plus some Quick Fair, anticipate using another pound on the inside, plus some QF.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:05 pm
by garym
Switched to quickfair after a few rounds of blended filler.

It always seems to look worse before it looks better. The inside edges in the motor well are going to be a pain in the rear end.

Can you make fillets with quick fair?

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Still need a hatch cut out in the well

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Planning on skim coating the back frame and front frame

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Will do the 2 hatch cutouts in the front after the 1st coat of prime

I'm sure there will be more quickfair in my future after the 1st coat of prime goes on.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:20 am
by garym
The reinforcements have arrived.

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Pleased with the result. Places that I thought might need more work don't and then there are some that became more obvious.

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A little more QF and a little more sanding and all will be good.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:21 pm
by Cracker Larry
That looks great, Gary 8) Send those reinforcements to my house!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:19 pm
by garym
If you were a little closer i'd be there in a heart beat.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:14 am
by garym
Looked great until the sun came up this morning. If it was cloudy 95% of the time I would paint and forget about it.

QF and sand.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:30 pm
by garym
Priming the outside so I can repaint with interlux bright sides - Green

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It started to rain a few minutes after we finished. Set a new record for throwing a tarp over the boat.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:44 am
by garym
Raised the height of the waterline to 4"
Hope that covers it.

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Saturday is topcoat day for the outer hull.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:08 pm
by garym
Got the second coat of Green interlux on the outside and the second coat of high build primer on the inside.

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This was the only mess up. I applied the tape a little to high in this one spot. Easy to fix.

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The paint job came out far better than I had hoped. A lot of the imperfections that were visible when painted blue are no longer an issue. I did some spot fairing b4 I repainted so that may have made the difference.

Have to wait a week to start painting the inside. Expecting the teleflex steering stuff today.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:44 pm
by cottontop
Gary, Your boat is looking real good. You're really on a roll now!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:10 pm
by wegcagle
Great job! You've been flying on this build 8) Did you use Interlux perfection (2 part topcoat) or the one part? How did you like it?

I ask because I just got a coupon where my total cost for interlux perfection would be about $150! (Which is probably less than half the cost of Sterling/Awlgrip)

Thanks,

Will

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:01 pm
by garym
Will,

I used the Interlux Brightside 1 part polyurethane.
Roll and Tip. Also bought brushing liquid which I didn't need.
I am very pleased with the product and the end result.

I'm not very patient so i read the mfg info for the high build primer. Seems its ok to paint when the primer is fully cured. The test is to wet your finger and drag it over the primed surface. If there is no residue on your finger its cured.

Sea Green/Grand Banks Beige

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:11 pm
by wegcagle
Looks awesome! Thanks for the report/info. I will be making an order now 8)

Will

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:27 pm
by robbiro
NICE!! Like the color combination...

Keep on Buildin'
Robbie

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:19 pm
by garym
Thanks for the compliments I also think the colors look great.
My 10 year old son AJ thinks it looks like crap and he's upset that he was not consulted before I changed the color from the original Blue. He may also want Jacques job because he's not happy with the design of the boat - Not enough comfortable seating for him and thats just the short list.

The rug rats had a bottled water party on my freshly painted boat while I wasn't watching last night. 1st thing I did was pop a few extra high blood pressure pills, shot this picture, kicked them off and then hosed the mud off the boat.

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Fortunately no damage done which is a testament to the paint.

Worked on the steering today. Its temporarily installed until I get the final interior coat of paint on.

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On we go!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:11 pm
by Cracker Larry
Looking good Gary. Boats are to enjoy for the whole family and friends, not just to sit there in yard and look pretty. Get em dirty, they wash clean. I have to hose off the mud every time I use mine, wouldn't want it any other way. We get filthy just catching bait before we even start fishing :lol:

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:21 am
by tcason
What color non-skid?

Using the Kiwi beige and does it "match" the interlux beige?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:54 am
by garym
For better or worse - Kiwigrip White.
Will try to get it applied Saturday if the weather allows.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:39 am
by ks8
8) nice job and colors.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:48 pm
by snookiehunter
Looking good

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:26 am
by garym
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Is it ok to have the steering cable, control cables, fuel line and electric all pass through a common motor well opening?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:46 pm
by garym
For anyone who needs a laugh here's my dumb ass move of the day.
I was drilling holes through the motor well side to mount the fuel water separator.
As I was pulling the drill out of the last hole I noticed what appeared to be water pouring through the hole.
Couldn't imagine where the water was coming front until I opened the hatch for the adjoining compartment.
Turns out not to be water but the liquid that was in my nice new battery.

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If anybody needs a NEVER START battery I have one available - Wholesale! Freight PPD. :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:17 pm
by ks8
glad you didn't get burned! :)

I guess an acid cleanup isn't normally part of the procedure.

I'm fairly sure that this isn't covered under 'normal wear and use', but did you try exchanging it? ya never know until you try when it comes to salesman and return exchange policies. :)

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:03 pm
by garym
I noticed a few days later that some of the concrete slabs at the front of the house go etched from the acid.
My pants also had a few holes in them that weren't there the day before. Good thing I was wearing pants that day :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:22 am
by blueflood
by garym » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:28 am

Know how you feel. Had frost on my boat this morning.

The gf18 hasn't seen water yet but I seem to keep looking at the HM19 design.

Nice boat and progress Gary...looking sweet :D Yes it is somewhat demoralizing not being able to work on her but it gives something to look forward to come April. You are interested in the HMD19 ? Evan produced a great design tailor-made for my needs, sadly but only a few out there from Chicagoross and the late Yoda that I know of.

Marc

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:16 pm
by blueflood
Gary, I noticed you had a question regarding the enclosure for hope2 float. It is the same kind I am using actually. Mine came from Global Industries and it is 14 X 26 feet, plenty spacious for my HMD19 (8 X 19 feet). Lots of space to move around and more so in front of it for a work table. The metal tubes are 2 inches, the fabric is really sturdy with the full enclosure option (sides, front and back; the front having a zipper). It is great for an outdoor build such as ours because it lets the light in yet provides shade and ventilation. It takes two people to erect but only myself to take it down. I left the frame intact during the winter because in Ottawa we get plenty of snow and no way can it support heavy loads. I would anchor it - if strong winds get to it, it may take off (look at my build pix after the storm - it must have moved a good 3 feet. All in all a great investment for $500 and it can be used for the launch party :D or other activities. Further, the four sides are attached via bungees so one or all panels can be removed in minutes.

Marc

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:04 pm
by garym
The trailer has arrived.

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The mission for the weekend is to turn the boat around, jack it up and get it on the trailer.

The punch list is shrinking and the hope is to work slowly through the winter when the weather allows.
Have the boat powered and in the water mid march.

I started dropping hints about the upcoming HM19 to the SWMBO.
Surprisingly not much pushback, figured I'd let her marinate with the news for a while. :D

Bye the way I've been following this site for over a year and had no idea what &*$#@!& SWMBO meant.
Finally broke down and googled it.

Its my new favorite.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:01 pm
by garym
Got the boat turned around and now I'm having trailer trouble.
Cannot raise the bunks enough to clear the tires.

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2 steps forward, 1 step back.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:54 pm
by Cracker Larry
2 steps forward, 1 step back.
I know that feeling well :lol: As long as you are gaining 1 for every 2, you'll get there. Nothing but a thing you can fix 8)

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:06 am
by ks8
A simple swap out to taller brackets, or bunks, as long as the trailer is long enough so she will float off. On shallow ramps, I can push my boat off with a good shove or two when the trailer fenders are about one inch submerged, but that puts the tow vehicle rear tires just inches from the water. Would be nice to have at least a foot of clearance there, but as it is, I may need to hinge the front of the trailer to shorten it (when not in use) for storage. If that is what I do, I'll make the hinged extension about a foot longer than it is now, after the cut for the hinge point, and that should fix that. I hope you will have no such issues. Looking forward to your splash report. :)

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:59 am
by garym
After slowly jacking up the boat blocking, jacking and reblocking the boat is finally on the trailer.

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1st trip out of the driveway.

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:15 am
by glossieblack
She looks great on the trailer Gary!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:07 pm
by ks8
8)

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:35 am
by garym
Thanks.

Have globs of ice on the boat this morning (29 degrees).
Looks like the covers going on this weekend so not much will happen until March.
Still have some plumbing and electrical to take care of. By mid March the hope is to have the engine hung and the last item will be an application of Kiwigrip on the sole.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:36 am
by garym
Have the trailer jacked up so the water runs to the back.
The cockpit is not draining as well as I would have liked. Even with the drains almost flush to sole water and dirt has been accumulating. I may add a drain in the center of the frame which may help a little but I don't thinks it will ever be 100%.

Think I should have added a couple layers of ply under the sole where the drain is placed and routed away the sole to create a recess. The drain plug would then be 1/4 to 1/2" below the sole and the recess would theoretically catch the accumulated dirt. :idea:

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:02 pm
by ks8
Thinking chair stuff. :) Hopefully your new plan will help those just at that stage now. Thanks for the tip. :)

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:19 pm
by Cracker Larry
My OD18 has the same trouble, even with a center drain and on each side about like yours. The center drain helps a lot, but a boat is seldom/never sitting level.

On the GF18 that I'm building we are going to make a recessed gutter in the sole, across the front of the rear frame to solve that problem.

This is why we build more than one boat, we learn something from each of them to make the next one better :D Or maybe it's just BBV :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:58 pm
by garym
As far a BBV I've got a bad case.
Have been staring at the HM19 plans like a patient for past few weeks.
My feeling is I learned so much on this one ( still not finished) that it would be criminal not to do another one.
At least thats what I tell my wife. :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:37 am
by blueflood
Hi Gary,

Good for you for having bought the HM19 plans. This will be a fun project for you; I could tell that when you start thinking about another boat design when the first is not completely finished, the first choice was not necessarily the best choice. Then again, boat building is addictive and not one boat design does everything, always compromises somewhere so the more the merrier :lol: Have fun with your new project :D

Marc

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:41 pm
by garym
You nailed it. I was inclined to do a smaller less complicated build for the 1st boat just to get my feet wet.
After considering the family dynamic and the desire to bring a few friends along I settled in on the GF18. It was only after being well into this build and reading all the construction notes over the past 1 1/2 that with hindsight I think I would have chosen the OD series probably the OD16. Anyway I expect to get 2-3 years of enjoyment out of this boat before anything else is water ready.

And on another note.

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23 degrees this morning with a wind chill of 12.

And thats all there is to say about that. :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:39 pm
by garym
My impatience got the better of me so I took the cover off this morning.
So basically that means we should get 12 to 24 inches of snow over the next 2 weeks.

Batteries and wiring this weekend weather permitting.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:29 am
by garym
Daylight savings and 2 days with temps over 40 degrees allowed for a little progress.

Installed the shark navigation lights.

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Partially installed the switch on the console. 6 would have been better than 4 (I was warned)

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Bilge pump installed to a thru hull fitting out the port side.

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Anchor light installed. ( Telescoping probably would have been better) I will wait until it breaks off. :D

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Still have console lighting, Fuel connections & 82 misc things to do. Scratch 1 off and add 4 more.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:21 pm
by Joe H
Hey Gary,
Nice build, I bet you can’t wait to splash her, I know the feeling, the lakes here in Michigan are frozen over solid, who knows when they are going to break up enough to launch!
( Telescoping probably would have been better)
I’m not really sure but you may have to raise your anchor light up a bit to be within regulations, an “all-around” light like the one you have there you have to be able to view it 360 degrees around within 2 miles with no obstructions, I also think this can be a matter of interpretation by the guys controlling the regulations but if you are going to be running at night it’s just a matter of safety.

Looking good!

Joe H

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:40 pm
by garym
Thanks Joe.

I have been following your build since I joined and you're doing a beautiful job.
Definitely eager to see her in the water.
I'm sure the console and the bow of the boat are obstructing my 360 degree light so I will have to swap it out at some point.

Gary

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:41 pm
by garym
Anybody like the high tech custom fit trash liner console cover?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:31 pm
by blueflood
Love it !! same as mine :lol: and had to go in knee high snow to brush off one foot of the white icy stuff....

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:03 pm
by garym
I feel for you.
I think we've turned the corner here. Just not sure if we're out of the woods yet.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:56 am
by garym
Trailered the boat over to Freeport on saturday to order the engine.
Signed the paperwork for an Evinrude 75hp Etec - My hands still shaking after writing that check.

Got a whole lot of compliments on the boat. As I was leaving one guy chased me down beeping his horn. I thought the boat was falling off the trailer so I stopped. He just wanted to talk. After 10 minutes of telling me how nice the lines were and what a great
design he tells me his name is Al Grover Jr. Al grover built a line of boats in the 80's and was the 1st to do a transatlantic voyage with an outboard engine.

http://groverbuiltboats.blogspot.com/20 ... otage.html

Somethings tells me he's in the mood to build a boat with his son. We'll see.

Should have the engine is a week, so I have some odds and ends to finish up.

Getting close.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:25 am
by Cracker Larry
Got a whole lot of compliments on the boat. As I was leaving one guy chased me down beeping his horn. I thought the boat was falling off the trailer so I stopped.
Get used to it, these boats always draw a crowd :D

Congrats on the engine purchase, I know that check was hard to write :!:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:57 pm
by garym
Kiwigrip?
I know this is a matter of taste but I thought some opinions would be nice to have.

I would like to have the kiwigrip create a painted border around the console and where the sole meets the side of the boat as well as around the 2 exposed frames on each side that meet the sole. Not sure what size tape to mask with and what size radius to use for inside and outside corners. Which tape is best for this purpose ( Green or Blue 3m?)

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Any thoughts?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:01 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Your boat is looking great :)
I used 1-1/2" tape blue 3M for the borders on my XF and my son's GF.
After you tape, give everything you plan to Kiwigrip a good sanding.
I gave the sanded area a good cleaning with alcohol.
Here's a couple of pics...

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As for the radius corners, keep your eyes peeled for round objects in the work area. Use whatever strikes your fancy.
Cut shallow with the razor knife and the kiwi will cover up the marks.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:13 pm
by peter-curacao
garym wrote:Kiwigrip?
I know this is a matter of taste but I thought some opinions would be nice to have.
Gary you can do a lot with kiwi grip and it's really fun to work with, here's some examples of the fun I had with it 8)
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Use coins and other round objects that looks good to cut the corners
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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:44 pm
by Cracker Larry
For corner radius use anything round, gallon paint can, quart paint can, jar lid, or whatever gives you the shape you desire. I also prefer the 3M blue tape. Edge Lock it is called. Pull the tape while the KG is still wet. Don't let it dry!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:03 am
by garym
Thanks for all the tips.
I gave the sanded area a good cleaning with alcohol.
Would that be Scotch, Vodka or Gin :?: :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:38 am
by Cracker Larry
Would that be Scotch, Vodka or Gin
Cape Man Craig and I used moonshine when installing the skeg shoe on his OD18 :lol: That stuff would strip paint!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:36 pm
by garym
Hope you drank some of it.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:45 pm
by Cracker Larry
Way too much :help:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:10 pm
by Aripeka Angler
garym wrote:Hope you drank some of it.
I saw him the next day :lol: He was almost too green to fish :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:58 pm
by Cracker Larry
That was a rough night :!:
He was almost too green to fish :lol:
Almost :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:51 am
by peter-curacao
Cracker Larry wrote:
He was almost too green to fish :lol:
Almost :lol:
That's the other stuff :lol: :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 3:48 pm
by garym
Almost there.

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Department of motor vehicles for the registration tomorrow. (sure that will be 2 trips)

Kiwi grip on the floor during the week.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:42 pm
by garym
Surprise, surprise, only 1 trip to the DMV.
4 clerks and 1 supervisor later I have my registration #'s.
Definetly the 1st time any of them processed a home made boat.

Kiwi Grip next.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:05 pm
by Noles309
Congrats man, hope mine goes that smooth.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:12 pm
by garym
New York State just wanted their pound of flesh.
All I needed were the invoices for the plywood, plans and fiberglass kit and they were happy. No sales tax was paid at the time of purchase.

Don't forget to bring some documentation and a pen. I forgot the pen and that caused me the most grief.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:28 pm
by peter-curacao
Congratulations on the paperwork! boat looks great 8) , one question why is that tilt/trim switch on the right (pinky) site of the throttle, or am I looking at something else?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:29 pm
by ks8
garym wrote:Surprise, surprise, only 1 trip to the DMV.
4 clerks and 1 supervisor later I have my registration #'s.
Definetly the 1st time any of them processed a home made boat.
I ran into the same thing in NY, even after two trips. Still confusion. Then I moved to NC, finished the boat enough for a launch, and it was soooooooo easy a process in NC. Took maybe 5 minutes, and everyone knew how to do it. Of course, in NC, it took an hour to get there, and an hour back.... :lol: ... but it was a nice drive....

In fairness, there were a lot of nice things about NY, and some departments , and yes, some DMVs too were very sharp on their game... very helpful.... so please don't read me wrong. I think my first two visits just happened to be to a DMV with mostly new staff. But then I'm probably just making this post worse by saying more. :lol: :)

Looking forward to splash pictures. 8)

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:41 pm
by garym
one question why is that tilt/trim switch on the right (pinky) site of the throttle, or am I looking at something else?
That's a great question since the pinky doesn't work the same way as the thumb.
I have no clue. Its manufactured by BRP controls. The only thing I can think of is that it may be less likely to accidentally adjust the trim when underway, or the engineers at BRP came up with the design after happy hour. :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:53 pm
by peter-curacao
garym wrote:That's a great question since the pinky doesn't work the same way as the thumb.
I have no clue. Its manufactured by BRP controls. The only thing I can think of is that it may be less likely to accidentally adjust the trim when underway, or the engineers at BRP came up with the design after happy hour. :D
If that's really the trim button I think they gave you the wrong control, I think that control is a right mounted gunwale control, I could be wrong of course :doh:

something like this
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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 4:03 pm
by garym
Not sure I completely understand. I will take a close up shot in the console and out and post it later today.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 4:47 pm
by peter-curacao
garym wrote:Not sure I completely understand. I will take a close up shot in the console and out and post it later today.
I don't wanna panic you so maybe wait until some heads up from others, I could be completely wrong about it, I just thought it's a strange location for the trim

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 4:52 pm
by garym
I'll stay cool.
Information online about the different options for this control is lacking.
From what I can see from other controls online is that if you go with a console side mount you have the same situation :? maybe. Not sure.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:26 pm
by Cracker Larry
If that's really the trim button I think they gave you the wrong control, I think that control is a right mounted gunwale control, I could be wrong of course
Peter is correct, trim should be on the thumb side.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:07 pm
by garym
Peter

Glad you noticed that, I never would have.
Larry thanks for confirming.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 2:33 pm
by garym
Spoke to the Evinrude dealer who installed the BRP control this morning.
He told me that for controls that are externally mounted the tilt/trim switch is on the left side of the throttle handle.
I chose the internally mounted box with just the throttle handle being visible on the side of the console.
According to the dealer the throttle with the trim/tilt on the right is all that is available from this mfg for this type of mount.

I have a lot of faith in this dealer so I hope all is as it was presented.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:23 pm
by peter-curacao
garym wrote: Spoke to the Evinrude dealer who installed the BRP control this morning.
He told me that for controls that are externally mounted the tilt/trim switch is on the left side of the throttle handle.
I chose the internally mounted box with just the throttle handle being visible on the side of the console.
According to the dealer the throttle with the trim/tilt on the right is all that is available from this mfg for this type of mount.

I have a lot of faith in this dealer so I hope all is as it was presented.
I don't think this is correct, as I see it this control does have a left sided trim/tilt switch but should be mounted on the starboard side of the boat (like in the pic I put on earlier), the way you put it on the console is if you put it on portside of the boat, I think the dealer should have told you, you would end op with a trim/tilt on the right (pinky) side if you mount it like that.
But that's just me, I don't know how much you will use the trim but I know I use it frequently (more than my tabs), for me it would be very awkward having it on that side, hopefully it isn't for you.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:47 pm
by garym
My preference is to have the throttle on the right side of the console.
I write with my left hand and throw a ball with my right so my brain must be slightly screwed up.
Anyway you are correct, I don't anticipate using the trim all that much so I I'll deal with it for now.
If it becomes a bother down the road then a change may be needed.

Thx Again

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:55 pm
by peter-curacao
garym wrote:My preference is to have the throttle on the right side of the console.
I write with my left hand and throw a ball with my right so my brain must be slightly screwed up.
Anyway you are correct, I don't anticipate using the trim all that much so I I'll deal with it for now.
If it becomes a bother down the road then a change may be needed.

Thx Again
It doesn't matter if you put this control on the left side of the console,if you do so you probably end up controlling it with with your left hand, resulting in the trim/tilt switch is still on the pinky side

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:03 am
by topwater
Take it out and get your money back and buy the right one from after market.
but thats just me.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:59 am
by Cracker Larry
I agree with John.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 9:47 am
by garym
Any good online sources for after market controls?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:59 pm
by Cracker Larry
I hate to tell you this, I really do, but you probably won't find one that is right for that location. To be honest, I've never seen a throttle box mounted in that location. It is in the way of people, clothing and gear moving front to back. Console controls are always face or top mounted out of traffic. Side mount controls are made to mount inside the gunwale or inwale area like this picture, which puts the switch where it's supposed to be and why yours is backwards.

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I would hate to have to work my trim control with my pinky :help:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:02 pm
by garym
I saw alot of these online but I'm still not sure how that would side mount to the right side of my center console :doh:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:04 pm
by Cracker Larry
I'm still not sure how that would side mount to the right side of my center console
That's what I was hating to tell you. You can't, without the control being backward. Console controls are top mounted.
I hate to tell you this, I really do, but you probably won't find one that is right for that location.
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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:13 pm
by Cracker Larry
The best recommendation I can make if you are determined to keep it there, is to call or email teleflex customer service. If there is a product for that application they make it. Excellent company to deal with both on the phone and by email. Show them what you got and ask them what to do. They don't want that trim switch under your pinky either :wink:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:29 pm
by garym
Will do. Thx

Being the 1st boat I was reluctant to stray from the plans. The console on the boat is as per plan but its rather small.
Hindsight 20/20 there would be a larger console on the boat with a top mounted control.

And for those who are going to suggest that I just cut off the console and remake it, thats not happening. :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:38 pm
by peter-curacao
What you can do is see if there's a possibility to rebuild the handle, I know mine has a little hole on the right side (your left side) so maybe there's a possibility to relocate the switch.
Also what you can do is overwrite the switch with a second switch and put that in a convenient location on your console, it's not ideal but trimming with your left index is always better as with your right pinky just my opinion.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:02 am
by garym
What you can do is see if there's a possibility to rebuild the handle, I know mine has a little hole on the right side (your left side) so maybe there's a possibility to relocate the switch.
I checked the left side of the handle to see if there was a plastic knockout to move the switch, nope. :cry:

After thinking long and hard over the past 2 years and being the original creative thinker that I am I have decided to name the boat Stitch N' Glue.

If there is ever a 2nd boat it will be Stitch N' Glue II.
The decision on a 2nd boat will come after I consult with my family, my banker and a mental health professional.

Anyway looks like crappy weather here until mothers day so I guess my wifes mothers day present is going to be helping me kiwigrip the sole. I haven't told her the news yet. Anyone care to bet if there will be kiwigrip on the sole Monday morning?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:33 am
by Cracker Larry
I'll bet a dollar you don't :lol: :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:24 pm
by garym
My wife told me to double down on your bet but I don't want to take your money.
Looks like I might have a kiwigriped sole Monday morning.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:27 pm
by peter-curacao
I take that bet!!! (you didn't say which Monday) :P

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 8:39 pm
by garym
My wife worked really hard today.
After her traditional mothers day morning breakfast in bed she hit the boat.

Taped around the console.
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Pulled the boat out of the driveway across the street under a tree and out of the sun.
Kiwi grip sets up fast enough without any help. Remove the tape before it dries.

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I think she had fun. ( I HELPED A LITTLE )

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Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:20 pm
by garym
Roll and tipped both sides of the boat to clean up the scuffs and scratches left by the winter cover moving around.
Unless this batch of interlux bright sides hardens more then the 1st painting the hull will be an annual event. Fortunately it went
fast. I really forgot how weather dependent this build was. We had rain Saturday night so there was a lot of condensation left on the boat sunday morning. I started wiping up excess liquid at 6:30 am and it wasn't until 9:30 that it dried up enough to tape off for kiwi grip. If I had not moved the boat to get out of the sun I would have to sand and redo. Get the tape off as fast as you can, before it dries. After rolling and tipping I pulled the boat back in the driveway. A few minutes later there was a gust of wind that blew the flowers off the tree next to the driveway.

You know the rest.

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Boat lettering should be here tonight. I should be able to apply it later this week after the paint hardens up a bit.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:48 pm
by Cracker Larry
I reckon I owe you a dollar :D Looks great!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:52 pm
by garym
If we meet up someday you can buy me 1/2 a beer. :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:54 pm
by Cracker Larry
I'll do better than that :D Beautiful job, even if your trim button is on the wrong side :lol:

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:55 pm
by peter-curacao
Cracker Larry wrote:I'll do better than that :D Beautiful job, even if your trim button is on the wrong side :lol:
I second that! boat looks great and console looks sharp! 8)

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 3:40 pm
by garym
I'll do better than that Beautiful job, even if your trim button is on the wrong side
Ass backwards, thats how I roll.

Thanks for the compliments.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:20 pm
by Noles309
Looks great 8)

Is that the cream Kiwi?

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:24 pm
by garym
Standard white Kiwi

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:26 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Beautiful work :) Your boat turned out great :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 7:17 pm
by blueflood
Yeah Gary It turned out beautiful ! Glad that your wife was participating, I am certain that makes the project even more fun to build and share :D

Marc

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:29 am
by ks8
Nice. 8)

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:37 am
by wegcagle
Great job Gary. That color scheme looks really good 8)

Will

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:55 am
by Joe H
I love that color scheme, I might have to borrow it for my OD16 face lift!

Looking good!

Joe H

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:45 pm
by garym
Thank you all.

If all goes well I hope to move this post to the finished boat section this weekend.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:10 am
by blueflood
Launch time Gary :D Great and good luck !

Marc

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 7:33 am
by Hope2float
Gary, very nice work and I'm sure your happy to be at the end the build and the start of the fishing.
Good luck with the launch
BUILD_DONE!
Dave

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:49 am
by garym
Thanks all.
Just working on the last minute stuff. All the little chores add up.
I'll try to knock the list down as much as I can on Saturday and finish the rest after its in the water.

Top of my list is getting a fuel filter wrench to keep on the boat. As hard as I tried, I'm sure some crud got into the tanks so I want to be prepared if I have a problem.

Calling Boatus for a tow 1st time out would suck. :D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:25 pm
by garym
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Launch is on for tomorrow.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:55 pm
by blueflood
Hi Gary,

Awright !! Finally the time has come. You did a great job with the boat, the lettering, the green, everything. Post pics of launch and on the water too !

Marc

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 6:25 pm
by wegcagle
Looks awesome Gary. 8) Congrats

Will

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:51 pm
by ks8
:D

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 1:19 pm
by willg
Congratulations! Looks great!

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 11:33 am
by garym
Thanks all.

Looks like its boots or barefoot.
I originally set the water line at 3" and after doing some math I raised it to 4".
Still not enough. I went with a 75hp, so with the extra weight the boat draws down 4.5" and I'm about 1/2" shy of the scupper holes. If you stand in the center of the boat and pass gas its wet feet.

All good, the drain plugs will get a workout.

If I had to do it again the drains would be in the sole near the center of the boat.

Also wet lockers, Dry Storage is going to be a major pain in the ass. I'll figure something out.

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 12:07 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Very nice looking boat :) Congratulations on the launch, she sure looks fine on the water.
Most of the guys on here will tell you about their builds ..."if I had it to do over again"
We tend to be own worst critics...

Re: Gary's GF18

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:25 pm
by garym
Mounted the rod holders on the back frame and bought a large cooler to use as a seat.
Used the boat this weekend to see the Blue Angels at the Jones Beach air show.

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Still debating if I should mount the trolling rod holders into the center console or mount them into the rear storage locker.

Only reached for the trim/tilt button on the left side a dozen or so times. :help: