I agree, why not go ahead and apply the finished paint before the test runs?
I'm also curious, will you be able to paint "SkinnyDip" in the upright position?
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia
Lee, cape man and AA, thanks for your comments on sequencing topsides painting and rat rod run testing.
I agree that there are good reasons to paint then test. On the other hand, testing first allows a decision to be made about spray rails before topsides paint is applied.
Spray rails may be needed for knocking down spray, for increasing bow lift, or both. A number of test runs may be required to get final spray rail configuration right. Spokaloo, who's opinions on stern tunnel boats I rate, suspects bow uplift may be required.
So my current preference remains rat rod run testing first, then topsides painting. But that may change.
This afternoon I prepared a template out of scrap structural play for the installation of the engine controls and instruments. The F-N-R and throttle for the e-motor will be mounted above the diesel’s.
Pictured below is the template with the diesel engine’s F-N-R shift and throttle lever, its control panel, as well as the 12V system’s fuse panel, installed.
From here on, all painting will be done with the boat right way up.
I agree that there are good reasons to paint then test. On the other hand, testing first allows a decision to be made about spray rails before topsides paint is applied.
Spray rails may be needed for knocking down spray, for increasing bow lift, or both. A number of test runs may be required to get final spray rail configuration right. Spokaloo, who's opinions on stern tunnel boats I rate, suspects bow uplift may be required.
So my current preference remains rat rod run testing first, then topsides painting. But that may change.
This afternoon I prepared a template out of scrap structural play for the installation of the engine controls and instruments. The F-N-R and throttle for the e-motor will be mounted above the diesel’s.
Pictured below is the template with the diesel engine’s F-N-R shift and throttle lever, its control panel, as well as the 12V system’s fuse panel, installed.
From here on, all painting will be done with the boat right way up.
Currently building Jacques Mertens ST21 "Skinnydip". Boating adventures: Splash testing and using 'Skinnydip, as a basis of further building refinement; Adams 44’ sailing sloop "Great Sandy" (cruising and maintaining); Iain Oughtred Feather Pram "Mini Dip" (building); Jacques Mertens R13 "Wood Duck" (built and due for maintenance).
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia
Needs more gauges - you can never have too many gauges!
And your point about spray rails is valid. I didn't think SKINNYDIP would go fast enough to need spray rails but the bow lift thing may be true. That's way too technical for me!
And your point about spray rails is valid. I didn't think SKINNYDIP would go fast enough to need spray rails but the bow lift thing may be true. That's way too technical for me!
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia
More gauges ?? Instrument panels are never big enough. Gauges rock - even if a few dud ones only for show
As for chase tubes - I forgot one and it was a costly omission so yes...a few more chase tubes wouldn't hurt either
Keep on building guys...
Nice to hear from you, Justin.
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As for chase tubes - I forgot one and it was a costly omission so yes...a few more chase tubes wouldn't hurt either
Keep on building guys...
Nice to hear from you, Justin.
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia
Ahhh...Spray rails... forgot about that discussion. I did not put spray rails on before finishing my boat, and now am hesitant to do so because I know how hard it is going to be.
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia
Yep no spray rails on my OD18 and will try to put them on as soon as possible. Put them on where they are designed if they are so done.
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Thanks for your spray rail comments Lee, cape man and Tom.
I plead guilty to the paucity of gauges noted by Lee and Marc, although there are a few more on the engine box, as per the slightly askew mock up pictured below.
Justin, good to hear from you, and thanks for your build compliment. Have you considered that he likes lots of gauges so that he can build lots of chase tubes?
I plead guilty to the paucity of gauges noted by Lee and Marc, although there are a few more on the engine box, as per the slightly askew mock up pictured below.
Justin, good to hear from you, and thanks for your build compliment. Have you considered that he likes lots of gauges so that he can build lots of chase tubes?
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Re: ST21 Hybrid Powered "SKINNYDIP" Noosa Australia
Glossieblack I am rooting for the rat run. I am the impatient sort and want to see that girl run With lots of pictures PLEASE
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