ST21 'Skinnydip' build, and boating adventures, Noosa, Australia

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Re: ST21 'Skinnydip' build, and boating adventures, Noosa, Australia

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glossieblack wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:43 am Thanks Fuzz and Jeff. :D
Fuzz wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:38 am What brand of vaccine are you getting? For me it was three weeks apart and then two weeks after the second one I had a two week wait to be good.
We're getting AstraZeneca jabs, produced in Australia under licence from the British-Swedish multinational biotechnology company based at Cambridge University, UK. Twelve weeks between jabs 1 and 2. Our second jabs are booked for mid July. :D

Picked up the fixing hardware for bunk re-alignment for Skinnydip's trailer today. Weather is looking good for tomorrow, my back seems healed for the time being, so stand by. :D
Congrats on the shots. Had to look up the AZ data info and was surprised by the 8-12 week wait between shots. But oh, well as long as you guys are protected. :D

Nice work on the trailer. SD will have a nice home while you are out leaving her home alone. :lol:

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Re: ST21 'Skinnydip' build, and boating adventures, Noosa, Australia

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Thanks Tom, the prospect of knowing Skinnydip is safe high and dry on a trailer in a secure location while we are away for months cruising Great Sandy has been a powerful motivator.

I spent today trying to work out design and construction details for DIY trailer guide posts for Skinnydip's trailer.

From previous experience with a borrowed trailer, I've learnt the hard way that Skinnydip, with her flat bottomed box keel, is difficult to load onto a matching flat bed/bunked trailer without drifting against or worse onto, one of the wheel guards. :help:

Whereas a deep V hull and matching trailer tend to be self-aligning and correcting, a flat bottomed boat with a flat bottomed/bunked trailer have no built in self alignment.

So I'm considering installing guide posts at the aft quarters of the trailer, although I have no experience of using setups with them.

Any feedback from those who do would be greatly appreciated. :D

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Re: ST21 'Skinnydip' build, and boating adventures, Noosa, Australia

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Same issue with a flat bottom dory. My trailer has two upright posts that are bent at the bottom, clamped to the frame, and sleeved with pvc pipe. The inside of the fenders are covered with thick carpet. I try and get the trailer as far in the water as I can, and go as slow as possible when loading. Using the wench instead of the motor to pull her onto the trailer is also good, especially when there's a cross wind or current. I can move the transom to either side to center it when I'm out of the water with two people, but she's probably much lighter than Skinnydip.
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Re: ST21 'Skinnydip' build, and boating adventures, Noosa, Australia

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Most of the time my loading conditions are less than ideal so I have side boards on my trailers. Makes life a heck of a lot easier.
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I like them long enough and tough enough so all you have to do is get the bow in the hole and then drive it home. :D

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Been a while since I posted pictures. These should be easier to see.
Some of the places I load the dory have a ton of current. You have to be almost on step when you turn out of the current and onto the trailer. No matter what you are going to bang around some getting on the trailer. The side boards hold the boat on the trailer while you pull it out.

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Re: ST21 'Skinnydip' build, and boating adventures, Noosa, Australia

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I was going to go snap a pic of those exact things (but I was not willing to fly back to the freezer to get pics of yours and my neighbor’s boats are all oddly “not here”).

We have massive cross currents at all the ramps and lots of flat bottom boats. All of the trailers for flat and shallow V hulls use those side boards. Seems they load a lot faster than the folks with just the vertical guides.
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Re: ST21 'Skinnydip' build, and boating adventures, Noosa, Australia

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Hi,
As I need the guiding poles only when I get the boat out of the water I made them removable so they are again in the cars boot when I trailor the boat home. I just stick the smaller aluminium square tube with its vertical plastic pipe into the permanently mounted aluminium traverse and put a bolt through both which I lock with a clevis pin underneath. This construction is rather wobbly because the corner connection is just a mild steel angle from a window sill flower bed holder but serves my purpose on a flat lake well because I can adjust the boat minimally floating between the poles by hand. If you need in rougher conditions a strong guidance I would suggest you make it like Fuzz mentioned with boards. I have seen my construction on other trailors already with a small rubber wheel on each vertical pole and the boat will sort of roll onto the trailer not only by the wheels underneath but also from the sides.

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Here is a closeup of the port side with the small ss bolt through the aluminium squares and the clevis pin hanging underneath which I also need to change to stainless steel because it is rusting after one season.

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Nice Karl!!! Jeff

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Re: ST21 'Skinnydip' build, and boating adventures, Noosa, Australia

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Many thanks cape man, Fuzz, Jaysen, Karl and Jeff for the wealth of real world advice. Gotta love this forum. :D

I've ordered a pair of C.E. Smith heavy duty trailer guide posts from Amazon Australia. From cape man's pic, I suspect they're the same as his.

If posts prove to be insufficient, I'll augment them with side bunks.

Thanks again all. :D
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Re: ST21 'Skinnydip' build, and boating adventures, Noosa, Australia

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The C.E. Smith trailer guideposts arrived via courier late this afternoon. I'm looking forward to fitting them tomorrow! :D

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