OB 15
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Try Limco paint. It is an automotive paint that is way cheap compared to the upper line of Glasurit. Its made by BASF. Guys at work have used it on their own projects with good results. Im not sure if they have a catalyzed single stage but the base /clear is very affordable.
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Cali, I called a paint store that carries Limco. That paint was even more than the 2 part epoxy. What I needed, was a paint that has marine applications. I found it, after searching 'till no end. Z-Spar. It's $24.00 a quart. It's for above the water line. However, I talked to some of the vendors that supply my parts, and they use cheaper paint than I do and it works fine if you don't leave the boat in the water for a long period of time. The most important thing is the primer. The primer I used, was self-etching primer with a 2 part epoxy over that. The aluminum is now sealed off and the Z-Spar should hold up fine. The OB 15 is a different story. That has to be top quality. Tomorrow and over the weekend I will spray the upper leg and then I'll post some photos. I appreciate the help.
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Someone needs to explain to me the difference between marine and automotive paint when it is used above the water line or is submerged for a week or so. Many parts on the modern day car are made of aluminum and need to hold up to a variety of elements including salt laden fog in the costal areas. If you are using a one part paint on that motor you are looking for trouble down the line when you try to touchup the finish. The cheapest two part polyurethane is far better than the best single stage one.
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I think you may be confusing one part paints with one stage paints.
I don't have much experience with car painting, but I think when people refer to 2 stage paints they mean a base colour with a clearcoat on top. A single stage paint would just be a gloss finish colour. This would still be a 2 part paint though (ie base paint plus hardener). The only single part paints I know of for cars is the base colour in a 2 stage system, but that is then covered with a 2 part clear coat.
I have used car paints before on boats, but all have been 2 part paints, either acrylic or polyurethane. Polyurethane would be better if you can get it, I think it is a little more flexible than acrylics.
I think the main difference with marine paints is they are developed to stand up to a bit more abuse. They get constant rubbing from fenders and harder wear in salt water. A good quality marine paint will have a built in protective film that comes to the surface when you apply it giving the paint a nice tough surface. As far as I know the car paints don't have this. This does mean you can polish them though without damaging the protective finish.
I don't have much experience with car painting, but I think when people refer to 2 stage paints they mean a base colour with a clearcoat on top. A single stage paint would just be a gloss finish colour. This would still be a 2 part paint though (ie base paint plus hardener). The only single part paints I know of for cars is the base colour in a 2 stage system, but that is then covered with a 2 part clear coat.
I have used car paints before on boats, but all have been 2 part paints, either acrylic or polyurethane. Polyurethane would be better if you can get it, I think it is a little more flexible than acrylics.
I think the main difference with marine paints is they are developed to stand up to a bit more abuse. They get constant rubbing from fenders and harder wear in salt water. A good quality marine paint will have a built in protective film that comes to the surface when you apply it giving the paint a nice tough surface. As far as I know the car paints don't have this. This does mean you can polish them though without damaging the protective finish.
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Dbcrx, you are absolutely correct. Marine paint has special chemicals that prevent rapid oxidation when in salt water, since salt water induces oxidation. Funny we bring this up now. I just came in from the shop. I was spraying my outboard. Smith Paint got the color perfect! It all depends on the application. Paint companies, produce products for most applications. I f you own a boat and have it docked in the marina, an average marine paint, like Petit, might not be what you need. For me, a single stage paint, Z-Spar, which is made by petit, will work perfectly. If I scratch or ding it, I can easily repair it. Also, I'm not leaving it the water, and will only use it for fresh water. Using a 2 part epoxy for a primer was a good idea. The aluminum is now sealed off from any electrlysis that might occur. That's what I was working on the past few months. This person who had this motor before me, let it sit in the water for years! It was pitted, but, not bad. All the pits are filled and the motor sprayed up awesome! I'm gonna take photos later today, if it's touchable. If not, I'll post tomorrow.
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I just came back from the shop. I looked at the parts that were just painted. Those are the ones that are in the photos posted previously. WOW!. The paint spread out. I mean the paint has smoothed out to a mirror finish. I touched the motor pan lightly where it won't show and it's still quite tacky. I'm going to give it a second coat tomorrow. I have to wait 24 hours before I can coat it again. I'll take some photos before I re-coat it. It's unbelievable. The color is perfect.
I called West Marine in Long Beach and asked if they had Z-spar that can be tinted. They said no. You have to have a base to color and 1 stage marine paint doesn't come like that. Then I asked if there is a 1 stage paint that comes in different colors. He said Interlux and Petit. I told him the color I needed and he said they had six different blues. I have a piece off the motor that has the color I need. It's kinda light turquoise. He said he was familiar with boat colors, since marine colors vary little. $45.00. Not bad. It's like someone said earlier, you can touch up 1 and 2 stage paints. Not so, for 2 part epoxy. Anyway, I'm have to wait about a week for the paint to cure before I polish it. To tell ya the truth, I don't think I'll have to.
I called West Marine in Long Beach and asked if they had Z-spar that can be tinted. They said no. You have to have a base to color and 1 stage marine paint doesn't come like that. Then I asked if there is a 1 stage paint that comes in different colors. He said Interlux and Petit. I told him the color I needed and he said they had six different blues. I have a piece off the motor that has the color I need. It's kinda light turquoise. He said he was familiar with boat colors, since marine colors vary little. $45.00. Not bad. It's like someone said earlier, you can touch up 1 and 2 stage paints. Not so, for 2 part epoxy. Anyway, I'm have to wait about a week for the paint to cure before I polish it. To tell ya the truth, I don't think I'll have to.
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Two points, here. I went to the garage to check the paint job. Impressive. I can see where all the imperfections are. I'm gonna sand with 400 grit, then re-spray. Then buff after a couple of days. It came out very light. Just the way I wanted it. I didn't want that Swiss coffee look. This is more on the white side. I'll take photos of the transome mount, which is still white primer and you can see the difference.
Second point. This is off topic. I belong to two other forums. A woodworking forum, where I share my 40+ years of experience, and Fiberglassics, where this outboard has it's own topic heading. However, when my computer crashed and I rebooted, the username and password won't work. I use the same username and password for this site and the woodworking site with no problem. Fiberglassics, problem. It won't work. The administrator says it works, when it doesn't. I like posting there with others that have the same type of motor I have. I might be necessary to say goodby to them. ??? The settings on my computer are the same. There's is the only site I can't login to.
Second point. This is off topic. I belong to two other forums. A woodworking forum, where I share my 40+ years of experience, and Fiberglassics, where this outboard has it's own topic heading. However, when my computer crashed and I rebooted, the username and password won't work. I use the same username and password for this site and the woodworking site with no problem. Fiberglassics, problem. It won't work. The administrator says it works, when it doesn't. I like posting there with others that have the same type of motor I have. I might be necessary to say goodby to them. ??? The settings on my computer are the same. There's is the only site I can't login to.
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Would it happen to be woodworkingtalk.com? I'm a member over there and occasionally it has some quirks, but when I try again the next day it works just fine.
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No, Woodsmith.com. The forum is great. There's woodworking, woodworking power tools, woodworking hand tools, and home improvement. Anyway, I just did system restore. So let's see what happens. If not, I guess I'll be posting here more often. And that's a good thing!
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