I was so excited to get my long panels together. I planned the lay up of glue between the joint. Perfect mix of epoxy, pre wet the seam, let it gel, put on the cloth, mixed final coat. Everything was great. Flipped the panel did the same on the other side. This morning I was getting ready to bring the panels where I'm working on the boat. Hmmm. Something isn't quit right. I dont remember this much curve. Pulled out the drawings. O boy, the back panel on the side boards are upside down!. O crap. I had labeled all joints a to a, b to b and so on. Those joints were E and F. Apparently when I was writing the letter I underlined the F and miss took it for an E. Lol. All I can do is laugh and switch back to using numbers.
Any considerations when grinding off a fiberglass seam?
Thanks
Cbuf
Lm18 madison 1 step forward 3 steps back
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Re: Lm18 madison 1 step forward 3 steps back
Cut down the middle of the splice. On the inside use butt blocks. Yes they will be seen inside.
Make sure to only put the butt blocks on the inside panel. Not sure how big they should be, leave the bottom of the butt block 1/4" from edge of panel.
http://bateau2.com/howto/long_panel.php
Make sure to only put the butt blocks on the inside panel. Not sure how big they should be, leave the bottom of the butt block 1/4" from edge of panel.
http://bateau2.com/howto/long_panel.php
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Re: Lm18 madison 1 step forward 3 steps back
If glass splice was good enough first time why wouldn't it be the preferred method second time?
Cut the seam, grind off the glass, when you glass the splices back together with the proper panels make sure you have enough thickened epoxy between panels to make up for what you removed with the saw blade.(nearly a negligible amount)
The beauty of the plans and materials used in these boats is you cant screw anything up beyond what you can grind off and fix with some epoxy and fillers trust me, we have all done something that needed fixed :p no big deal
Cut the seam, grind off the glass, when you glass the splices back together with the proper panels make sure you have enough thickened epoxy between panels to make up for what you removed with the saw blade.(nearly a negligible amount)
The beauty of the plans and materials used in these boats is you cant screw anything up beyond what you can grind off and fix with some epoxy and fillers trust me, we have all done something that needed fixed :p no big deal
Re: Lm18 madison 1 step forward 3 steps back
narfi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:20 pm If glass splice was good enough first time why wouldn't it be the preferred method second time?
Cut the seam, grind off the glass, when you glass the splices back together with the proper panels make sure you have enough thickened epoxy between panels to make up for what you removed with the saw blade.(nearly a negligible amount)
The beauty of the plans and materials used in these boats is you cant screw anything up beyond what you can grind off and fix with some epoxy and fillers trust me, we have all done something that needed fixed :p no big deal
So this is a butt splice with glass not a butt block?
I missed that part, I thought it was a scarf joint.
But still he will have to cut the other side now. Leave the glass/epoxy on the side you are flipping.
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Re: Lm18 madison 1 step forward 3 steps back
I am just going off what I see on the picture.... I dont own plans for that boat, but I know that on mine there were no but blocks, just glass tape splices like i see in the picture here.
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Re: Lm18 madison 1 step forward 3 steps back
So true. I can nearly guarantee you that this won't be your only do-over. This building method helps you be precise and artistic as well as occasionally inattentive, and it all turns out OK.
If I were to separate those panels, I'd grind off the glass then cut the seam with the smallest blade I could find, and move on. I'd even try scoring it with a utility blade a few times and see if I could get it to crack.
Re: Lm18 madison 1 step forward 3 steps back
I wound up just grinding if off and doing it over. The only thing hurt was my pride. I'm heading down to marco island for the week of fishing and fun. When I get back I'll turn it into a hull.
Thanks for all your input.
Cbuf
Thanks for all your input.
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