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LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:58 pm
by fishgitr
What's up guys?

I am at it again. I just ordered materials from Reid. I am going to try and have the strong back done tonight.


I have to have this done by late mid June due to a baby on the way that is due July 4th.

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:44 pm
by fishgitr
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Strong back together. Hopefully cut the frames tomorrow after work.

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:36 pm
by Dan_Smullen
Make it happen, Cap'n!

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:54 am
by VT_Jeff
I have the same deadline, we can race. I have a slight head start but I took tonight off, should even things out.

Good luck, watching closely.

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:20 am
by fishgitr
Vtjeff

What are you building?

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:31 am
by Jaysen

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:35 am
by VT_Jeff
fishgitr wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:20 am Vtjeff

What are you building?
Fs14ls, jaysen posted the link. I have a little more than a slight head start but I tend to take the longest possible route through any step so you could well still beat me. I also need to wait for warm weather before I can paint, which is about all I have left.

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:00 pm
by Jwhitakeriii
lets goooo!

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:10 pm
by Jeff
Good to have you back building!!! Jeff

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:03 pm
by fishgitr
Good looking boat VT Jeff.

Jeff I have definitely missed you guys!

Maybe JM can chime in on this.

1. Since I have been introduced to pressing a 1 piece cap from a mold. Would it be OK to do it for the LM and glue it in place or does it need be done seperate?

2. I was looking at the plans. I only saw straight sheer round chine and low sheer round chine. Is there an option like the FS18 regular sheer and regular chine?

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:18 pm
by jacquesmm
fishgitr wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:03 pm Good looking boat VT Jeff.

Jeff I have definitely missed you guys!

Maybe JM can chime in on this.

1. Since I have been introduced to pressing a 1 piece cap from a mold. Would it be OK to do it for the LM and glue it in place or does it need be done seperate?
I assume that pressing a 1 piece cap means building a deck separately from the hull then gluing it down on the finished hull. Why not? As long as you treat it as you would do with plywood, it will work. If you think of a sole and deck in one piece, it will probably not work. I don't see any need to mimic fiberglass production methods. A whole "cap" made from a sole, deck and gunwales will not bond well to the stringers and floor frame cleats and the boat will not be as strong. I don't see any benefit but I see a risk of a poor bond.



2. I was looking at the plans. I only saw straight sheer round chine and low sheer round chine. Is there an option like the FS18 regular sheer and regular chine?

I will look at that tomorrow AM. There is an optional rounded chine. It is cosmetic and does not add anything to the behavior, quite the opposite.
There was a discussion about a slightly rounded sheer, I will check the 3D model.

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:40 pm
by Jwhitakeriii
fishgitr wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:03 pm Good looking boat VT Jeff.

Jeff I have definitely missed you guys!

Maybe JM can chime in on this.

1. Since I have been introduced to pressing a 1 piece cap from a mold. Would it be OK to do it for the LM and glue it in place or does it need be done seperate?

2. I was looking at the plans. I only saw straight sheer round chine and low sheer round chine. Is there an option like the FS18 regular sheer and regular chine?
There is an option for the regular sheer regular chine. My original plans had it only that way but as they were still finishing the round chine measurements but I just looked at the updated plans they sent once everything was finalized and (quickly skimming) did not see anything for the regular chine.

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:21 pm
by fishgitr
Ok I'm obviously dumb or something.

The black circle shows two measurements. Are those added together? How about the yellow? Because it's several inches different.

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Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:27 pm
by jacquesmm
One dimension is from the baseline, the other from the chine. Added up, they are close but I think we are looking at two different frames anyway.
Normally, I show all dimensions from the baseline. I will check tomorrow AM on the 3D model but the dimensions seem to be correct, not shown in a consistent way.

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:21 pm
by fishgitr
Got all the frames cut out.

JM I got it figured out. It's strange why the measurements were all done one on all but two frames.
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Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:22 am
by jacquesmm
One item at a time: sheer option first.

Reid reminded me of a discussion we had while I was designing the LM18. As usual, I got a little carried away with options and I ended up with a 3D model with many options. Three types of sheer lines, two types of chines and tunnel or not.
There were 3 sheer lines to choose from:
- a curved sheer, traditional looking
- a straight sheer like the Phantom boats
- a low sheer: straight but a few inches below the other ones.
We decided to limit the options and show only two sheer lines, each of them straight.
That is what you have on the plans: the standard boat has a straight sheer. The decks, gunwales, sheer line are all in the same plane.
We decided not to show the curved sheer. It was very close to the straight sheer anyway. I was very advanced in the drafting and since the small difference in sheer did not affect most of the drawings, I left them as they were. If you pay close attention, you can see the small curvature of the sheer in the construction drawing, perspective view.
That's it: there are only two sheer lines on the plans, each of them straight.

I still have the 3D model of the hull with the slightly curved sheer. The only difference is the topside panel. The sheer edge is a little different. If somebody wants a drawing of that panel, I can draw it but again, the difference is very small, barely visible.

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:27 am
by jacquesmm
One item at a time: sheer option first.

Reid reminded me of a discussion we had while I was designing the LM18. As usual, I got a little carried away with options and I ended up with a 3D model with many options. Three types of sheer lines, two types of chines and tunnel or not.
There were 3 sheer lines to choose from:
- a curved sheer, traditional looking
- a straight sheer like the Phantom boats
- a low sheer: straight but a few inches below the other ones.
We decided to limit the options and show only two sheer lines, each of them straight.
That is what you have on the plans: the standard boat has a straight sheer. The decks, gunwales, sheer line are all in the same plane.
We decided not to show the curved sheer. It was very close to the straight sheer anyway. I was very advanced in the drafting and since the small difference in sheer did not affect most of the drawings, I left them as they were. If you pay close attention, you can see the small curvature of the sheer in the construction drawing, perspective view.
That's it: there are only two sheer lines on the plans, each of them straight.

I still have the 3D model of the hull with the slightly curved sheer. The only difference is the topside panel. The sheer edge is a little different. If somebody wants a drawing of that panel, I can draw it but again, the difference is very small, barely visible.

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:32 am
by jacquesmm
For the stations drawings:
You are correct and the drawing is correct too.
In all my drawings, I try to show all dimensions from the same baseline but in this case, for station D, I made an exception to my rule and show one dimension from the chine to the sheer. Mea culpa.
When you draw the station (= mold = frame), you first draw the centerline and baseline then you offset your points from there. You don't have to do any math, you just mark the points.
Look at the tick marks for each dimension, you can't go wrong.

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:11 pm
by fishgitr
JM thank-you!

I got the plywood glued together today. Tomorrow I will cut out the hull bottom and sides.

I tried ripstop nylon on one of the joints and needless to say I will be using it on a lot of the hull to keep smooth joints etc.
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Re: LM18

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:13 am
by Jeff
Nice work!!! Jeff

Re: LM18

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:53 pm
by fishgitr
Got it all stitched together! Hopefully it will dry and I can get the seams glassed tonight.
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Re: LM18

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:37 pm
by VT_Jeff
Amazing.

You will definittly beat me.

Re: LM18

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:55 pm
by Jeff
WOW!!! Really fast!!! Jeff

Re: LM18

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:19 pm
by fishgitr
All seams taped
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Re: LM18

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:29 am
by Jeff
Are you working all night??? Jeff

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:54 am
by fishgitr
I probably would if the mosquitoes wouldn't carry me away.

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:41 pm
by fishgitr
Fully glassed.. fairing tomorrow if the weather holds out.
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Re: LM18

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:16 pm
by fishgitr
Resin tally= 2.25-2.5 gallons

This is gluing the panels, glossing seams, and laying the two lengths of 12 oz biax.

Re: LM18

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:40 pm
by fishgitr
1st round of fairing
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Re: LM18

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:08 pm
by Fuzz
That looks pretty dang good already! You must have done a real good job glassing and keeping things smooth.

Re: LM18

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:49 pm
by fishgitr
Thanks Fuzz

I try to get the hull as straight as possible before glassing. I used the nylon on some of the seams to "flatten" them as much as I can.

Re: LM18

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:42 pm
by TomW1
Looking good guy. Once you get this one sanded down and put the seconded coat on and sanded. Get a can of fast drying Krylon black spray paint and spray it using a motion that makes dots. Then sand it again and that will show you your highs and lows. Build up your lows and see if you need a third layer of QuickFair you may not need it, if you did a good job on your initial bottom.

Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:57 pm
by fishgitr
Thanks Tom

I used 70% micro balloons and 30% silica. No QF. I'm thinking I will have it in two rounds.

Re: LM18

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:43 pm
by TomW1
fishgitr wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:57 pm Thanks Tom

I used 70% micro balloons and 30% silica. No QF. I'm thinking I will have it in two rounds.
The bottom just looked tan like QF, sorry about that.

Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:13 am
by fishgitr
You're good brother!

Tomorrow I will show you all a sander that will make fairing this boat in about 20 minutes.

Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:03 am
by Fuzz
fishgitr wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:13 am You're good brother!

Tomorrow I will show you all a sander that will make fairing this boat in about 20 minutes.
I will be waiting with bated breath to see this magic sander :D

Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:32 pm
by fishgitr
Step 1. Get a 7 or 8 inch sanding pad to go on a big grinder

Step 2. Use a piece of 1/4" plywood and trace/ cut out a 9x11 piece of sandpaper.

Step 3. Find the center and glue the sanding pad to it.

Step 4. Glue the sandpaper to the plywood, Put it on your grinder and go to town.

Once you start seeing fiberglass move on. A stitch and glue boat shouldn't take more than 30 minutes or so to do since all the panels are relatively flat.
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Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:38 pm
by TomW1
fishgitr wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:32 pm Step 1. Get a 7 or 8 inch sanding pad to go on a big grinder

Step 2. Use a piece of 1/4" plywood and trace/ cut out a 9x11 piece of sandpaper.

Step 3. Find the center and glue the sanding pad to it.

Step 4. Glue the sandpaper to the plywood, Put it on your grinder and go to town.

Once you start seeing fiberglass move on. A stitch and glue boat shouldn't take more than 30 minutes or so to do since all the panels are relatively flat.

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You don't really want to see the fiberglass you just want to smooth the fairing compound. :wink:

Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:33 pm
by cape_fisherman
I'm fairly sure, with that sanding contraption, you're going to need more fairing.

I agree on the guide coat. Do one after the last coat of fairing...and after the first coat of high build.

I suggest using food coloring in denatured alcohol. Wipe it on with a clean cloth...goes on as fast as you can wipe, and dries quick.

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:24 pm
by fishgitr
Started at 1908 and finished 1913 fairing the bottom.
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Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:48 pm
by Fuzz
Holey crap you might be my new hero!

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:00 pm
by fishgitr
Yes fuzz, it's a good thing.

Someone building something flat like a GF or OD could literally fair the whole boat within an hour. Put a round of QF and then do a 2nd round of fairing and be done.

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:26 pm
by fishgitr

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:07 pm
by cape_fisherman
Now paint it glossy black so we can see how that 5-minute fairing went. LoL

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:15 pm
by fishgitr
Just trying to help you guys out.. I've never built a boat or used this in the past.

Capefisherman I'll be glad to show you what they turn out like.

Here's one of the recent ones I've done
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Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:18 pm
by fishgitr
Heres another video of it in action a couple years ago..

I don't need to hear about using PPE. I was demonstrating this and was going to talk.

https://youtu.be/62jP8ZRiLbs

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:01 pm
by TomW1
Dang fishgitr that does look smooth. Go for it and show us the finished coat. I am sure it will be perfect. You going to use Graphite?

Regard, Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:47 am
by VT_Jeff
Those results speak for themselves. Nice work!

Re: LM18

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:30 pm
by cape_fisherman
Excellent results!

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:15 pm
by narfi
Looks pretty slick, does it only work on flat surfaces or does it work around curves if you are careful? Not knowing I would be scared of creating flat spots?

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:36 pm
by fishgitr
Narfi

Yes It does work of curves. You just have to be careful and take it easy..

That is where a variable speed would come in handy.

If weather holds out and I get my other stuff done around the house, it should be in primer hopefully by next weekend.

Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:06 am
by fishgitr
2nd and should be final coat of fairing besides filling pin holes created by the fairing. Tomorrow I will sand and hopefully get the rubrail glued on. Then I will prime it and have it ready for paint. The center line was just roughed into place. I will it into shape.

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Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:29 pm
by TomW1
That is looking pretty rough for a second coat of fairing. Guess your depending on that fancy sander. :D I would definitely fill that gouge towards the front before sanding so you don't have to sand it out. Looks way to deep, while not having to sand the rest of it so deep.

Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:28 pm
by fishgitr
The key to fairing is: put it on like icing on a cake.

It would've taken longer to try to fix the gouge than sanding it out. It was starting to kick on me with fast hardner.

I will post videos later, but for now here are some pictures. I have started sharpening the chines. I will install rubrail and prime hopefully in the next couple of days.
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Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:01 pm
by Fuzz
I am just amazed how fast you get a surface that is ready for primer! What grit of paper are you using?

Re: LM18

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:05 pm
by fishgitr
Fuzz I begin with 60-80. Once I shape the chines, I will go over the whole thing with 120 before primer.

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:00 pm
by fishgitr
I have made a whole YouTube series on the skiff. I am documenting each step as I go.

Please like and subscribe! Please feel free to ask questions and I'll do a Q and A about it.


https://youtu.be/fpXWD3yFYhk
https://youtu.be/j_9ylSJ0gbE
https://youtu.be/pODjTiJCr7g
https://youtu.be/XjJxBgieurk

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:32 pm
by TomW1
fishgitr if you sand the gouge out down to get rid of it and not the whole bottom to the same depth you will a low spot there, and will have to fill it. I would highly recommend you speckle the bottom before the last sanding. When you do the final sand I think you will be surprised at how uneven the bottom is.

Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:18 pm
by fishgitr
Tom, this isn't my first go around.. I know how to sand.

The spot I filled was after the first round. There was a lot spot that was next to the "gouge". Is the depth I needed to go down to. Whether it was there or not, I was still going back to that depth.

I do appreciate you trying to help.

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:09 pm
by fishgitr
Coated the back third of the boat with primer. It went on pretty smooth, now I'm back to it.
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Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:31 pm
by VT_Jeff
Pure insanity! Looks slick-as!

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:52 pm
by fishgitr
VTJeff thanks a lot

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:13 pm
by Fuzz
Watched the Utube videos and you have me convinced to give it a try next time. I have both a grinder and a 8 inch 0-3000rpm polisher. I think I might try it on the polisher first. Not as brave as you :lol:

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:31 pm
by fishgitr
Fuzz, you just have to do it..I know you Alaskans aren't scared to make it snow epoxy glass bubbles.

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:17 am
by TomW1
Looks great fg you know what your doing. I have to give you that. After doubting you. :wink: Build on and keep the pictures coming.

Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:57 am
by Cbuf
Are you putting a Skeg? This boat rides so flat that I would say it is a requirement. Plus it will help you track quiet a bit.

Cbuf

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:42 pm
by fishgitr
No I am not. I am running trim tabs with the down fins.

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:38 pm
by Cbuf
Interesting, I need to think about that. I'm not sure they will have the same affect. They only go down about 1 inch and are about 3-5 inches long. They won't help you track while polling, but might be effective enough with a trolling motor. You might want a second opinion as I have limited experience with those on smaller boats.

cbuf

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:57 am
by TomW1
If you put a skeg on the LM18 it will interfere with the flow of water to the tunnel. It just can't be done.

Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:03 am
by cape man
I'm very impressed. I love/hate sanding and fairing, and you make it look simple.

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:08 am
by cape man
If you put a skeg on the LM18 it will interfere with the flow of water to the tunnel. It just can't be done.
Quite true...if there was a tunnel on this boat :lol: :lol:

Re: LM18

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:22 pm
by fishgitr
It definitely won't have the same affect. I might still do it. I just haven't decided fully. I'm installing rubrails on it today. I have been out of town working. So I will yall some progress photos.

Re: LM18

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:24 pm
by fishgitr
cape man wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:03 am I'm very impressed. I love/hate sanding and fairing, and you make it look simple.

I don't mind it so much since Chris Morejohn showed me about using this sander. I still block or flat sand on the primer to get it better, but it isn't bad.

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:56 pm
by Marshall Moser
fishgitr wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:24 pm
I don't mind it so much since Chris Morejohn showed me about using this sander. I still block or flat sand on the primer to get it better, but it isn't bad.
So you cake the fairing compound on and definitely cover all the lows and then sand most of it off?

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:20 pm
by VT_Jeff
Marshall Moser wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:56 pm
fishgitr wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:24 pm
I don't mind it so much since Chris Morejohn showed me about using this sander. I still block or flat sand on the primer to get it better, but it isn't bad.
So you cake the fairing compound on and definitely cover all the lows and then sand most of it off?

That's about how I describe this whole boatbuilding process: ziptie some plywood together, cake on various types of epoxy, sand away anything that doesnt look like a boat. Fini!

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:15 am
by fishgitr
Marshall Moser wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:56 pm
fishgitr wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:24 pm
I don't mind it so much since Chris Morejohn showed me about using this sander. I still block or flat sand on the primer to get it better, but it isn't bad.
So you cake the fairing compound on and definitely cover all the lows and then sand most of it off?

Yes, make it thick and sand it off. You do waste some, but you can usually get it in 2 rounds.

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:29 am
by fishgitr
Yesterday I got all of the inside glassed and stringers installed. It was dark by the time I finished so I will get pictures today. Hopefully I get the frames glassed in tonight.

Between the first two frames up front, I will be building a built in fuel tank. This too, will act as a sub floor inside of the front hatch.

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 8:31 am
by Dr Pete
My boat is mostly constructed of epoxy and wood flour with randomly interspersed pieces of plywood.

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 8:57 pm
by Fuzz
PeteEdquist wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 8:31 am My boat is mostly constructed of epoxy and wood flour with randomly interspersed pieces of plywood.
:lol: I know this story. I have ordered so much wood flour over the years that when I order epoxy BBC goes ahead and fills the box with it unless I tell them not too :oops:
Speaking of BBC I got my last order in four days. Florida to Alaska in 4 days is dang good service if you ask me.

Re: LM18

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:31 pm
by VT_Jeff
Fuzz wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 8:57 pm

Speaking of BBC I got my last order in four days. Florida to Alaska in 4 days is dang good service if you ask me.
I ordered some stuff from Jeff over the phone today while I was driving around doing errands. When I got home, the order was there already.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: LM18

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:47 am
by Jeff
Thank you guys!!! We appreciate the kind words!!! Jeff

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:43 pm
by fishgitr
Here is the floor in. I glassed the under side of it before I stuck it in. The whole cockpit has been foamed also.
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Re: LM18

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:45 pm
by Jeff
Fast build Fishgitr, really fast build!!!! Jeff

Re: LM18

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:45 pm
by fishgitr
This has been keeping me busy too
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Re: LM18

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:55 pm
by Jeff
Nice!!!! Beat taste and best for you guys!!! Jeff

Re: LM18

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 pm
by TomW1
Dang that is a nice garden. Have not put a thing in yet. It went down to 24 and 26 degrees 2 nights last week. :help:

Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:32 am
by fishgitr
Thanks yall!

Tom where are you for it to still be that cold?

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 1:53 pm
by TomW1
fishgitr wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 10:32 am Thanks yall!

Tom where are you for it to still be that cold?
I am in the mountains of NC, our frost free date is May 15th. :( It was in the low 40's last night and is 54 right now with 20mph winds.

Tom

Re: LM18

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:21 pm
by fishgitr
I would love to move up there in the mountains somewhere and build a cabin. Take my sawmill and cut my own lumber.. there are too many northerners moving south