GV15 above-sole frames with rod holders

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GV15 above-sole frames with rod holders

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I want to add fishing rod (and other stuff) holders to the above-sole side frames. The side decks are going to be about 12" so I have a fair amount of width to deal with. Height is another issue: just 16-18" (and the inwales eat up ~2" of that). Here are a few pictures showing possible layouts. First, one side with hold a pair of fishing rods:
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On the other side, I'd like to stow another fishing rod plus a pair of stake out sticks and a paddle:
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There will be a slot in a forward bulkhead (that will also support the step-up to the casting deck) to receive the blade of the paddle and the handle would mount in the forward-most side frame.

I was thinking of using ball bungees strapped over the holders to keep stuff from bouncing around:
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Have others used ball bungees as hold downs -- do they work OK or is there a better solution?

I'm looking at a layout something like this:
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The small hole and slot are to accept the ball bungee. How deep do I need to make the slots for the fishing poles/etc.? How much room do I need to leave above the top-most slot? Lastly, I was thinking of adding a bit of slope to the side decks so water drains outboard --- is a 3° slope enough?
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Brian looks nice. Just remember these are structural pieces and must be at least 3" wide from any cut out to the side.

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What about the slope on the side decks? Have others done this and is it useful or am I just adding unneeded complications?
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Sure slope them it will help when on the trailer and if you get caught in a rain storm on the water. They will also look better than non-sloped ones. :D

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I ran across this design on silentneko's FS17 build:

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All the others I've seen use slots throughout. Have others done it this way: holes on one end and slots on the other frame(s)?
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here's what I did on the OD18.

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I do not need bungies or anything else to keep them in, but I also slow down when it gets nuts. I did not put pvc tubes on the starboard side for the tips, but wish I had to allow for more and longer rods.
Just remember these are structural pieces and must be at least 3" wide from any cut out to the side.
Not necessarily...they need to be wide enough at the top to support the gunwale, and strong enough to hold a fishing rod. Tom, go measure the distance between the cut outs and the sides on the holders Larry built for No Excuse. Bet you don't get 3" 8) .
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Here is what I did on my FS18. They are made from 3 layers of 9mm.
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Thanks all. I'm going with holes in the first frame and slots in the others laid out to ensure ~3" along the margins. I've also upped the thickness of the ply used from 9 mm to 12 mm.
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Just a quick comment on the cutouts.

If a deeper cutout is required then the same strength and stiffness could be added back by a trebling of thickness for every third of depth removed. So a 2” frame can be as stiff as a 3” one as long as you triple the thickness of it. It would be stronger as well.

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