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Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:39 pm
by VT_Jeff
I'm using the non skid from bbc. After the second round, it is definitely turning my oyster white beige. I'm wondering if the grit may be breaking down from the thinner. It's not a horrible look if it was consistent, but its streaky and random in some places. At $50/quart for the paint delivered, I cant afford to experiment too much.

Any thoughts very welcome.
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Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:54 pm
by fallguy1000
Try applying some onto a board and some onto a piece of clean glass, if available. If it does that away from the boat; it won't be the substrate.

How many days since the substrate went on? Most paints need like a week to flash off.

If you are sanding the substrate; it may be allowing some of the uncured paint solvents to flash off into the new stuff.

All I got.

Make sure to check any thinners you add to the non-skid. That could be it as well.

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:10 am
by VT_Jeff
fallguy1000 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:54 pm Try applying some onto a board and some onto a piece of clean glass, if available. If it does that away from the boat; it won't be the substrate.

How many days since the substrate went on? Most paints need like a week to flash off.

If you are sanding the substrate; it may be allowing some of the uncured paint solvents to flash off into the new stuff.

All I got.

Make sure to check any thinners you add to the non-skid. That could be it as well.
It's not the substrate, it's def the grit. In places where I was less than perfect sprinkling it, it's streaky, really beige where the grit is heavy, oyster white where the grit is lighter.

It took a few days for the latest spot to turn beige. I sent a note to jeff to see if i can find out exactly what the grit is, doesn't taste like much. 8O

I may be looking at splashing the boat with some mis-matched non-skid colors. I just can't see a quick/easy/affordable way around it and that's about all I have time for at the moment. I don't have a clear path to get the whole thing beige and I can't keep putting oyster white over the beige areas hoping they stay white, that's what the experts call "crazy". I may re-tape the whole thing and hit the non-skid areas with some cheap deck paint color matched to my oyster white, so at least if I keep having issues, it won't be at $50/quart.

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:34 pm
by fallguy1000
It looks like crap. Sorry.

I'd try to paint it..

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:37 pm
by Jaysen
Not sure how you did the grit, but I followed the how to. In the how to you add the grit to the paint before rolling. Using that method my oyster is … still oyster.

I will say that that the grit makes the bait look darker from the side. Little shadows from the grit. At noon it’s all one color though.

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:46 pm
by VT_Jeff
fallguy1000 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:34 pm It looks like crap. Sorry.
Beauty's in the eye of the be-painter and the be-paint-buyer.

Also, I can't believe you'd be that mean, Dan. :( When someone shows me a photo of something slightly-less-than-perfect that they worked hard on, I will always go out of my way to find something/anything positive to say about it, I don't laugh or tell them it looks like evidence from an explosion.

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:51 pm
by VT_Jeff
Jaysen wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:37 pm Not sure how you did the grit, but I followed the how to. In the how to you add the grit to the paint before rolling. Using that method my oyster is … still oyster.
Copy that. That's not the method I used this time round. I used the "paint & sprinkle" method. I used your method on my drift boat and wasn't stoked on it, it was clumpy. Other than the beige, and Dan's cruel comment, it looks great and gives great grip.

Jaysen wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:37 pm I will say that that the grit makes the bait look darker from the side. Little shadows from the grit. At noon it’s all one color though.
Gonna make a broad assumption that you meant boat and not bait.

In the light of my basement I did spend some time trying to see if that's what it was, sidelight, but it ain't.

I'm going to run some tests but I'm becoming convinced it was due to too much thinner. The early areas I did, with little-to-no thinner show no signs of beige.

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:20 pm
by VT_Jeff
BTW, I'm not actually sensitive, Dan is right, I'm just being a jackass.

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:23 pm
by fallguy1000
Guy puts a lot of work and $$$ into his boat.

Just to have the additive make funny colors?

No apologies.

It is hardly cruel to say it ain't right.

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:33 pm
by fallguy1000
I slipped with a wrench and my kopfer clipped the top of the transom. It made a bad sound. Hope I am not concussed.
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Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:35 pm
by Jaysen
Yeah yeah yeah. Boat.

If you sprinkle you need to roll another layer on it. Otherwise you have the grit co wrong the paint.

As to clumps… too much grit. Did that too. Stir the hull an a bit to suspend the grit and the clumps should go away. Also don’t load the roller too much.

I had the BEST success putting the grit in primer. Problem is that now I can’t repaint with out removing primer.

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:19 pm
by VT_Jeff
fallguy1000 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:33 pm I slipped with a wrench and my kopfer clipped the top of the transom. It made a bad sound. Hope I am not concussed.

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It's not a bad look on you.

Hope you stop seeing stars soon.

Re: Non skid turning my oyster white beige

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:22 pm
by VT_Jeff
Want to close the loop on this and ensure that the bbc non-skid grit isn't getting undeserved bad press. I re-did a lot of my non-skid with the same material and it came out great. No color issues. Still not sure what was happening last time around, maybe it was over-thinned.

Here's a lesson I learned: dont use $50/quart topside paint for the multiple under-coats. The grit sucks up paint at an alarming rate, gets expensive very fast!

The deck in the photo still needs a finish coat with oyster white. The pure white non-skid really pops as-is but it's a bit loud and makes the borders look overly yellow, or else I'd be tempted to leave it.