Foldover, shrinkable table

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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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fallguy1000 wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:20 pm I had a change of heart. Saw this Sapele at Woodcraft for $8/bdft

Gonna make all the tables from sapele.

Try building a countertop with sapele veneer on okume.

Maybe my bathroom door will be sapele, too.

I will sketch the table.F0339BB0-B3F3-4555-9409-9D65B2D0C0FA.jpeg
Great decision. I personally don’t like end grain butt joints in smaller pieces.
With the sapele you can use epoxy for gluing without oil worries.
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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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I still want some sapele plywood or to make my own.

There is a place here, but mdf core :(
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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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These pictures are more fun than sketching.

I don't like the wide rim in the small position, but the basic concept is good. I also don't see how they lock down; I would use a barrel bolt or four on the edges.
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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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The saloon table is 42" long by 32" wide. If you do it in quarters; you'd flip 8" each side onto the center 16" section. Two hinges is a bit shy; need 3 per side.

The flipped up rim is too deep. I might go no rim and a nice 3/8" radius each side all around.
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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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Now I see what you have up your sleeve. Pretty cool.
The edge stiffeners on the table will add a lot of strength.
Also, they would keep things in place when it’s choppy. (folded up mode)
When the leaves are folded down the drops hold the table flat without locking hardware.
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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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Aripeka Angler wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:25 am Now I see what you have up your sleeve. Pretty cool.
The edge stiffeners on the table will add a lot of strength.
Also, they would keep things in place when it’s choppy. (folded up mode)
When the leaves are folded down the drops hold the table flat without locking hardware.
Good Morning Richard!

Oh, I see what you mean about the edge stiffeners holding the table up. I need to lock it down because people will sit up to the table edge. Since the table edge is doubling as a bed support, I can't keep the table edge even an inch away from the seat edge below. I suppose I could make a flip up panel down below for the seat edge, but ideally a fixed table and a fixed seat edge are in the same plane.
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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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Good morning back at you.
The barrel bolts could go on the inside of the end drops. They would be less noticeable.
I‘m thinking if you could get by without the notched corners it would be stronger.
Maybe another hinge in the center if you are going to be sitting on it...
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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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Aripeka Angler wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:50 am Good morning back at you.
The barrel bolts could go on the inside of the end drops. They would be less noticeable.
I‘m thinking if you could get by without the notched corners it would be stronger.
Maybe another hinge in the center if you are going to be sitting on it...
Planned for 3 hinges. I wasn't going to do end supports or edge supports, but the place where people would be sitting is on the 32" end (16-8-8) and the edge supports would help keep any chance of edge joins failing. Thanks for the conversation. I think the only question is how to attach the supports. If I put them on the sides; then I will drop the cleat for the dropdown.

I had not considered hinging the table the other way, but it could be done. Then, when sitting; you'd be on 25% of 42", or about a 10" wide board on a 32" span. But it sort of reduces the easy to get in and out purpose of the fly leafs.

Hopefully I am making sense here. Now thinking aloud, if I sit on an 8" wide board; it will need the edge supports because it will be 21" less the pedestal top radius from base.

Oh, you really got me thinking now. Thanks.
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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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Been pondering barrel bolts from an altitude of 30,000 feet.
If you squared up the drops, this would work better with no rattle. Much stronger.
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Re: Foldover, shrinkable table

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Wife always helps.

The table will fly leaf the long way to make it easier to get in and out.

Just need to determine the edge joinery and the support joinery.
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