jacquesmm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:41 am
Christer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:59 am
Or, if I could talk Jacques into redesigning the CT22 for me like the PartyCat I pictured earlier, that'd be sweet.
No need to redesign anything. Your sketch is very close to my design. As long as you keep the main frames, you can do what you want with the seating.
There are two obstacles: the head and the main beam.
Can the main beam be moved forward a bit to allow the seating arrangement I showed? What if the overall beam of the boat was extended to say, 9ft? Or the whole thing scaled 10% for that matter.
jacquesmm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:41 am
I don't think the Glen-L head is realistic, nobody can fit in there. Build a cardboard mock-up, you"ll see.
I actually found a picture of a Bearcat built as a tour boat, and it had a porta-potty dead center on the deck. Not very pretty - or private. Then again, privacy on a small boat is pretty much impossible.
jacquesmm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:41 am
The Glen-L boat has a much lower bridge deck. That boat will slam in any kind of weather but it keeps the transversal girder below the deck and allows for that bow rider style seating.
You can do that with the CT22 if you accept the slamming. I wouldn't.
One of the reasons for wanting a catamaran is a softer ride with less slamming, so no, I wouldn't accept that either.
jacquesmm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:41 am
The main limiting factor is the head.
On the GP21, I propose a folding head, same as on some pontoon boats. It works, I had one on one of my boats.
Cat hulls are very narrow for a good head. A large console in a vee hull works better but despite what you see advertised, you have to go up to 23' to have enough room. It can be done in a C21 but it's tight.
I found a good candidate in a maritime catalog from a local shop yesterday. It's a 12V composting toilet with a height of around 40cm. That should be possible to pop under a seat behind some form of cover around for the illusion of privacy. Most times it'll only be myself and my family on the boat, and for those other times the rest will just have to look in another direction and whistle.
jacquesmm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:41 am
At first you showed the DE23 in your choices. That would solve all problems and it is a very nice boat.
There are smaller ones like the P21.
I've looked closely at those boats and I feel they tip over into weekenders with sleeping accommodation and all that. I honestly can't see us ever sleeping on the boat - the dragon isn't much of a boat person, so her coming along at all is quite impressive. She also gets cold easily and thus wants to go home to a hot shower. Thus the big selling point of the boat is kind of moot, at least for what we would be using it for.
Then again, currently NOT having the option of doing a sleepover at a nice little island prevents us from even trying the experience, so who knows? If I built such a boat, maybe we would start using it more and differently from what we've done so far.
They are very nice boats, though.
8ft dinghy built in 1992, BBV sufferer ever since.