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Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:00 pm
by TomW1
cracked_ribs the FAO program was set up by the United Nations and Yamaha as the motor provider to provide small and economically limited Countries a way for there coastal villages a way to build/buy a small offshore fishing boat powered by a small Yamaha motor that would get these boats to there fishing sites. These provided local villages with sustenance and a way to make a living for there village.

Jacques boats are an improvement on those early FAO boats. And his Panga's are as you can see from his motor recommendations are very efficient. A 75 up to 150 is unheard of on most on most normal 25' planning boats. The last one I was on had twin 150's on it if I remember correctly. Very fast as the top speed would be in the 40's as Jacques shows the Panga would be at DWL and a 150HP at wide open throttle. So a 100-115 on Jacques Panga 25 will give you a top speed in the mid 30's at wide open throttle. Most people don't drive there boats at top speed, they will find an efficient cruise speed, this usually occurs around 3000-3400 rpm's with the properly paired motor and allows a cruise speed in the mid-upper 20's.

Good luck with your selection and build Johnston

Tom

Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:36 pm
by cracked_ribs
Yes, I'm familiar with the program. I have the design somewhere but it's not of sufficient interest to me to have spent much time critically evaluating it.

Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:19 pm
by TomW1
cracked_ribs wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:36 pm Yes, I'm familiar with the program. I have the design somewhere but it's not of sufficient interest to me to have spent much time critically evaluating it.
I have to laugh at what the Panga design has evolved into. From charter boats in the Latin American countries to full on drug runner boats with 4 300HP motors on 45' boats or longer, capable of speeds in the 70's or higher. Oh well what a versatile boat it is. :D

Tom

Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:09 pm
by cracked_ribs
Interestingly my neighbours at my island place have a tiny one, identical except in scale to the so-called "Yamaha canoes." It was made by Yamaha in the 1970s, apparently. I commented on it one time because of its unusual appearance, and they told me the age and the manufacturer.

Looks just like your typical 19 or 20 foot Yamaha panga, but it's about 8 feet long. They use it as a dinghy to get back and forth from their big boat to shore. Next time I'm there, I'll take pictures. I have never seen one like it.

Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:38 pm
by Johnston
Anyone know what happened to this build?

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18587&start=10

Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm
by TomW1
Not sure, it was a well documented build. I did a search of the Coppermine Gallery above and found 6 pages of the boat, but could not find any construction pictures. Use Fonda@kauai and check the Boat block, Owner name when you do the search in Coppermine.

Tom

Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:26 pm
by TomW1
Johnston I don't quit. Go to Sashimi-panga22-Kauai in your search in Builders Power Boats. There will be 43 matches, go down to Fonda@kauai and click on his name. This will take you to his Viewing Profile. When you get there then go to the right and click on Most active topic: Sashimi-panga22-Kauai it will be red when you are on it. You will have 53 pages of his PG22 build documented with pictures. Hope this helps. It just takes time to find things sometimes. :D let me know if you have problems.

Regards

Tom

Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:46 am
by OneWayTraffic
That is a different build, but a better example.

Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:14 pm
by TomW1
OneWayTraffic wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:46 am That is a different build, but a better example.
Agreed but a great build of a large Panga.

Tom

Re: PG25 or GS28

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:25 pm
by Johnston
Thank you TomW - I am starting to see that the difference between build time on these boats comes down not to functionality but looks!