Seat Idea

[ks8]

I like the idea of getting double duty out of the metal tubes, as long as in practice the rods aren't in the way there when not in use.

Is the picture that CL posted close to what you are thinking about? If not, could you make a simple sketch, or draw over that picture if it is easier to do that? You might also snag one of the 3D renderings from one of the boat plans pages, and then sketch your mod into that image and repost that here. I did that with a few ideas and it helped to clear up exactly what I was thinking about, for others to see.

In particular, I'm interested in how the tubes would insert and mount into the hulls structure, and be secured, and if the tubes/back rest/rod holders are planned to be completely removable, or adjustable (such as adjusting height), as a *module*...

So jump back in and tell us more about your idea(s), maybe with a sketch or by drawing on a picture you've got that will help us visualize. Although many ideas have already been done before, sometimes there is some unique simple improvement that someone comes up with that adds a nice feature, like pop-up cleats, or the Herreshoff cleat. Cleats already had been done, but a simple design change added lots of functionality for some specific uses and benefits. Keeping innovation welcome.

I like these simple hand grip edges I added to the front of my bench seats. They also support removable deck boards, but when used as bench seats, they give a convenient hand grip. Now with your back rest and tube idea, I'm wondering if in the process of *redeveloping* an idea that has already been done, is there room for some new innovation or functionality or benefit, if we discuss it further with another picture or sketch?

[pmaru77]

Wow is right. I woke up a sleeping giant. Sorry Cracker for coming down on you, but I sincerely thought you were kidding me.
Those seats were not what I was thinking of exactly, but if the concept is to slide into two tubes, then it's similar. Mine would be 90 degrees different thaan those. And it would be mounted to the middle bench of the boat. I'll do a 3d of it this weekend and then we will be clear as a bell?

And yes, the mounthing of the tubes (2) will be the challenge. And the tubes would be permanent. The seat/backrest would not. Once again, this wouold be for the middle bench while not in motion, but drift fishing while chilling out.

[jacquesmm]

A small sketch is worth more than a long speech.
Try to draw what you have in mind, it doesn't have to be perfect.
Tell us also on what kind of boat you would put that. When I read your first post, I started thinking of canvas seats as seen in sailboat cockpits.

It may be a good idea but it may have been done before.

[PJPiercey]

How about a rectangular piece of heavy canvas with the four corners hooked to the side rails. It would be suspended between the mid and back seat. Kind of like a hammock; only with the ends spread out.

[pmaru77]

FS14 mid seat.

[peter-curacao]

I have an idea on a backrest design and thought I'd pass it by to see if it's been done b4.

On a typical bench seat, you could put two steel tubes (one on each side) that could be used as rod holders and could be used to put a back rest into. These tubes would have to be mounted strongly and into the corner where the bench meets the hull. It may require to mount some hardware throught the hull and the bench. The back rest would have a rest and 2 metal rods that would slide into the other mounted tubes on either side of the bench. After being out for 4 or 5 hours, it would be nice to be able to kinda lay down or stretch out, and seems like having that back rest there and the rest of the bench to sprawl out on would work. Anyone following me?






If you had the tubes on either side of the boat then you could sprawl out and have rod facing you on other side of boat.

8OWTF what the hell is that?!?!
Anyway I think 2 extra frames will do the trick, if it's enough to support the hull panels it's enough to support your back I think

[pmaru77]

Thinking more about mounting the tubes, I think if they were flush mounted to the seat frame, and up against the inner hull, they would be sturdy enough. Now the only thing to do is to try to keep the cost down. Through bolted galv.steel would probably be the cheapest. Not that I'm a cheapskate, but experimenting inexpensively is the idea. Unless of course I find the right parts and it's a slam dunk. Off to look at rod holders. St stl flush mount would be ideal.

[peter-curacao]

How bout 2 plywood rings (1 up and 1 down) like this on each frame? I don't think you can go cheaper like that.

[ks8]

The plywood ring should work fine, but both sides do not need to be rounded on the outside. Run one of those corners right to the hull side panel and fillet and tape it in. It would be plenty strong. Just put two of these, maybe each about an inch thick, in the corner of the frame, with the frame extended up to the sheer.

[pmaru77]

If the hand rail is just high enuf to clear a flotation cushion that would be used for sitting on, I can go for that. Then the question is, how far down does the backrest have to go, assuming I (or anyone) is sitting on a typical floatation cushion, you know the type of cushion that you are not supposed to sit on LOL!. A u clamp can be used to support the top of the rod holder, where it would screw into the rub rail area because it's about an inch thick. So the bottom of the tube needs to be supported. There are several ways to do this, so I will leave it open for now.

My wife asked once, "where are the handles" when she was riding on the middle seat. I went and got some stainless steel handles from WMarine for 14 bucks a piece, but have not mounted them yet. I was originally thinking of mounting them on the bench (horizontal surface, and since have realized thay belong on the side, through the rub rail material.