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Hi, this is JohnM, GV11 builder. I´m in the Philippines. I did epoxy joint break test and boil test on 1/8" exterior grade plywood. (I´ll test 1/2" today). <BR><BR>Using phil brand Pioneer Maestro Marine Epoxy putty on lapped (?) joint, 2"x2" pieces:<BR>wood failed; epoxy joint did not fail.<BR><BR>NOTE: 1/2" Marine Grade plywood Atlas brand made in Phil., 4x8, is P500 (about $10.00 US). 1/4 and 3/8 is much lower price.<BR><BR>Boil test: (1/8" phil-made ATLAS brand, Type 2, "C/E"-not marine, just ext. grade), above 2x2 piece boiled 10-15 minutes. (Long enough?). No delamination, no warping, no epoxy joint failure.<BR><BR>QUESTION: Anyone know of Liquid Epoxy suppliers/distributors in Philippines or even Taiwan or Hong Kong? West Systems has distributor in Manila but haven´t talked with them yet.<BR><BR>Take care, folks, and happy building!<BR><BR>JohnM



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John,<BR>With plywood prices like that, spring for the west! Ahhh the PI, nickel beers and $10 plywood. "Uno cervesa negra!" Are those micro balloons in the bottom of that San Miguel bottle or just vitamins? If I was there I´d be a boat buildin´ fool. I´d keep two families fed with good paying jobs for sanding/fairing technicians. What a place, I miss it sometimes.<BR>Jim (Cubi Pt in the ´80s)
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JohnM: we have other builders in the Philipines and they could not find an epoxy supplier.<BR><BR>We ship kits all over the world but it is expensive. Estimate that shipping will cost around 150% of the price of the kit, less if we go surface but that takes 6 weeks.<BR>
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Maybe Jim will become an epoxy supplier in the Phillipines! <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon_wink.gif">

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JimW, you should have been in Cubi in late 60´s early 70"s. The O´Club was the original "Wild and Crazy" place; world reknowned. Dime drinks, for everything whether a beer or triple shot. First night in for a carrier we were restricted to the concrete tank downstairs to minimize damage. Sometimes an Aussie or NZ squadron would be there; I´m surprised the roof stayed on the joint. Those guys know how to party! <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon_wink.gif"> <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon_confused.gif">
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Are you the same JohnM that was in California? If so, what in the world are you doing in the Phillipines? <BR>:>) <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon_biggrin.gif">
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Hi all,<BR><BR>Thanks for the replies. I´m really psyched up to build a boat here...though i´m still looking for the liquid epoxy and outboard motors.<BR><BR>I did boil test on Atlas brand 1/2" Marine Grade. No problems after 30 min.+ boil and just left it in water to cool.<BR><BR>There is (apparently acceptable if my test counts) marine epoxy putty avail. here, but couldn´t reach the West supplier in Manila, phone number not hooked up yet so maybe it´s a new business.<BR><BR>Raka or other epoxy is asian made? ...<BR><BR>For epoxy shipment, 6 weeks surface is ok; I´d order 60 liters, maybe 100+ if can get in a barrel or other heavy duty container.<BR><BR>JimW, hi, yes this is same JohnM ...I´m here incorporating my humanitarian aid/educa. organization, helping a private high school on Mindanao recover following destruction of it´s facilities. I´m looking into building boat(s) here and also <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon_biggrin.gif"> looking into building an amphibious bush plane (e.g., zenith 801 or murphy, etc.) which would be tremendously useful. As for boats, I think the C19 or OB19 will be my first choice for philippines building.<BR><BR>Will try to post in more appropriate forum next time.<BR><BR>Happy building and Happy New Year,<BR>JohnM<BR><BR>

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John,<BR><BR>You be careful down there in Mindanao! You can feel very safe for years then one day, ..... <BR>Tip: wear canadian flag patches on jackets. Leave the stars and stripes tucked away.<BR>jim
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John,<BR><BR>You might give SP Systems in Australia a look here <!-- BBCode Start --><A HREF="http://www.spsystems.com/contactaus.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.spsystems.com/contactaus.htm</A><!-- BBCode End -->, they do the South-West Pacific.<BR><BR>SP Systems (Australia) Pty Ltd<BR>4B Wilmette Place<BR>Mona Vale<BR>Sydney<BR>NSW 2103<BR><BR>Tel: + 61 (2) 9979 7248<BR>Fax: + 61 (2) 9979 6378<BR>email: <a href="mailto:info@spoz.com.au" target="_new">info@spoz.com.au</a><BR><BR>Good luck!<BR><BR>Greets, Leon Steyns.
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<!-- BBCode Quote Start --><TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font size=-1>Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE=-1><BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Raka or other epoxy is asian made? ...<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End --><BR><BR>Raka is generic epoxy sold here in the US, Florida. It is not marine epoxy and can not recommend it.<BR>It cost, in some packaging, a tiny little bit less than System Three IF you buy their regular resin but that one blushes a lot.<BR>If you buy their non-blushing resin, similar to our resin, it cost more.<BR>
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