OB19 or scaled OB21 vs GP21 vs PH22 for offshore use ?

[Salty F17]

So im already thinking about my next boat build i narrowed this down to three models OB19,GP21,or the ph 22 but want to know what you guys think about taking these boats offshore of Louisiana to the gulf to fish the riggs also still be able to fish inshore and what wave chop would be to much for these 3 boats to be in? Which boat is the more ready for the gulf also was thinking about the scaled Ob19 to a Ob21 any input would be appreciated thanks !

[thb]

I think the c21 would be very good offshore. High gunnels and good hull shape to handle the seas you may encounter going off to the rigs.

Regards
Tom

[Salty F17]

I think the c21 would be very good offshore. High gunnels and good hull shape to handle the seas you may encounter going off to the rigs.

Regards
Tom

I did look at the c21 but i like the look of the other boats they have more of the bay boat style i prefer that why the c21 didnt make the cut plus i already have the c17 so i didnt want to build the big brother of the c17 wanted something different if u know what i mean

[Chuck H]

Salty,

I don't think any of the boats you mentioned would be as "offshore capable" as the C21 but we all want to dance with the pretty girls (or the one with the biggest boobs).

I think a valid offshore option might be the Mangusta 20. It has significantly more deadrise than the others, a reasonable amount of freeboard, sexy good looks, and Barraman's already proven that it performs well when scaled up. You'll be more than capable of modifying it for fishing by the time you get through with your C17.

Chuck

[Salty F17]

Salty,

I don't think any of the boats you mentioned would be as "offshore capable" as the C21 but we all want to dance with the pretty girls (or the one with the biggest boobs).

I think a valid offshore option might be the Mangusta 20. It has significantly more deadrise than the others, a reasonable amount of freeboard, sexy good looks, and Barraman's already proven that it performs well when scaled up. You'll be more than capable of modifying it for fishing by the time you get through with your C17.

Chuck

I did see barramand build but do you think you could still inshore fish with a scaled up mangusta 20 whats is the draft of that boat ,all the other boats still have a shallow draft

[Chuck H]

I don't think you can get more "inshore" than some of the little creeks Lee fishes. Maybe he can tell us what the draft is. It won't be a flats boat.

You gotta compromise somewhere.

Chuck

[cvincent]

The OB21 is a good choice for what you want to do. I plan to build the AB 23 to fish the rigs in Louisiana. I intend to scale up by 10% and build with a full transom, bracket or porta bracket, and single 300hp.

[BarraMan]

I did see barraman build but do you think you could still inshore fish with a scaled up mangusta 20 whats is the draft of that boat ,all the other boats still have a shallow draft

Haha! I can run really shallow!

[youtube]https://youtu.be/L5FVd0Qmo9E[/youtube]

I also have a 14' almost flat-bottomed tinnie, ie The Little Barra Punt! I have taken the BIG boat pretty much everywhere that I have taken the little boat.

My boat (Mangusta hull up-scaled 10% = 22' long and 8'2" wide) is heavy in the rear end as I have 3 x batteries just ahead of the transom. The motor, which weighs about 510 lbs is on a hydraulic jack plate (6 inch lift) with an 8" setback. I also have hydraulic trim tabs. The hull has 10 degrees of dead rise at the transom.

The draft, when the boat is stationary with the jack plate lowered is about 24" - so I need about 30" for a comfortable start. With the jack plate right up, the boat will float in about 18". With the motor trimmed fully down, the jack plate fully down and the trim tabs fully down, the boat comes pretty much straight up onto the plane without the nose rising - in little more than one boat length.

Once planing, I normally run the motor trimmed out to just before cavitation starts, the jack plate up 3", and the trim tabs fully up. I run happily in 40" of water, but start to get anxious in about 20".

With the jack plate fully up, I can poke around on the trolling motor quite comfortably in 24"

I can get a start in very shallow water, particularly on a muddy bottom, by starting with the jack plate fully up and then slowly lowering it as the boat comes up onto the plane.

How does it handle? Amazingly well!

With 250 ponies poking it along, it will nudge 50 kts! Given that its propped for power rather than speed, I think that's pretty good. It is sweet between 20 and 40 kts and I generally cruise between 25 and 30 kts. The hull appears to have no vices, as I have yet to scare myself driving it. If I pull it into a tight turn at about 30 kts and feed in all 250 horses, I can just get it to start to slide. Apart from that, it runs on rails!

I have two fishing mates, one is a pro fishing guide runs a bass style of boat mostly in sheltered waters and the other is a former pro fisher who crossed one of the most notorious bars on the east coast of Australia every time he went off shore to work. They both love the boat. Its very stable and smooth riding in most conditions.

I mostly fish sheltered waters, but I built the boat because I wanted to be able to travel to some remote rivers in northern Australia chasing barramundi. Most days we can run down the coast to our fishing spot at 25 - 30 kts in the morning, no worries, but have to slog it back in the afternoon in some pretty rough conditions in a nasty little chop that is characteristic of the relatively shallow waters of the Gulf of Carpentaria. So far the boat has taken everything thrown at it in its stride, only needing to slow down to 18-20 kts. We have never felt unsafe or insecure. I have speared it in on two occasions now and dumped 6" of water into the cockpit, which the boat shrugged off - barely braking stride!

Here's a video of us heading home in some "rough" conditions. Its actually quite a dry boat - except when you spear it in!

[youtube]https://youtu.be/Odz0j1mpgdQ[/youtube]

[Fuzz]

The OB21 is a good choice for what you want to do. I plan to build the AB 23 to fish the rigs in Louisiana. I intend to scale up by 10% and build with a full transom, bracket or porta bracket, and single 300hp.

I would love to see someone build one. I know Cracker Larry always wanted to build one.

[BarraMan]

The OB21 is a good choice for what you want to do. I plan to build the AB 23 to fish the rigs in Louisiana. I intend to scale up by 10% and build with a full transom, bracket or porta bracket, and single 300hp.

I would love to see someone build one. I know Cracker Larry always wanted to build one.

I agree! The Abaco 23 is a good looking hull. I would have seriously considered it for my build if I knew then what I know now.