Another FS17 Build Thread

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Re: Another FS17 Build Thread

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mineratt wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:57 pm Like Mr. Cash said, one piece at a time.
Exactly!

Don’t fret. You’re almost halfway done with the first 1/3 of the project. 😂



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Re: Another FS17 Build Thread

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I had some left over fillet putty so I thought i would start the fairing process with that first instead of going into the quick fair first.
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So now I need to start thinking about painting the bottom. I read about coating the bottom with epoxy and graphite, system three primer and paint, just primer, and primer and bottom paint. I was thinking about primer on the entire outside with paint, but if I leave the boat in the water for a week I have read that the paint may blister and peel which would not be preferable. I do not need ablative bottom paint as the boat will mostly stay on a trailer, but it will be in the water for up to a week at a time. So what type of paint would be used below the water line?

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Several of the top side paints can be used on the bottom for several days. I will let Jeff tell you the best as time varies by brand.

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I spread the first complete layer of fairing across the entire hull. I put it on a little thick as it was the first layer. I had thought that I had smoothed the hull out real good but I was incorrect. I have a linear air sander so it came out pretty well. But sanding it was very slow going. The next layer will go on real thin and I think that will sand out a little faster.
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Looking good. Those straight line air sanders are nice, and make sanding much easier, but they don't create a fair surface as well as a long board (why do they call them torture boards?) will. At the least, use a long batten to identify the high points so you can focus your work where it's needed. Use a coarse grit like 40 or 60 until you get close to where you want to be. And of course, use good dust protection and ventilation- work outside if that's possible. One nice thing about doing the sanding outside is you can hose off the dust, and the wet hull will give you a preview of what a glossy paint surface will look like.
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So I have put on three very thin layers of the fillet goo, and now one layer quickfair, I think I will have one more layer of quickfair to go and then the first go at priming the hull. I guess the key to the fairing process is to keep the layers as thin as possible. Also, I completely agree that it is much easier to fair the hull without the rub rail or splash guard. But then with the way I installed the splash guard and rub rail (glassing over both) I would have destroyed the nice faired surface anyway.
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Just the thickened epoxy surface
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After multiple layers of the fillet goo providing a nice even surface surface with reasonably smooth transitions between each section of glass
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After the first thin layer of quickfair

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So there is a really big difference between the silica thickened epoxy, easy fillet, and quick fair. The thickened epoxy and easy fillet are pretty tough to sand and I used them predominately for the fairing process. But the quick fair, man that stuff is really "quick". I goes on like spreading butter, and it sands really fast. It does make a very fine powdery dust that floats everywhere.

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mineratt wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 10:28 am So there is a really big difference between the silica thickened epoxy, easy fillet, and quick fair. The thickened epoxy and easy fillet are pretty tough to sand and I used them predominately for the fairing process. But the quick fair, man that stuff is really "quick". I goes on like spreading butter, and it sands really fast. It does make a very fine powdery dust that floats everywhere.
Silica thickened epoxy is not used for most fairing. Just something like squaring off a transom and never final fairing passes. It is too hard, but good to use for fillets; moreso if applying tapes immediately so sanding is avoided
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Re: Another FS17 Build Thread

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Indeed, I used the silica epoxy paste to build up the various transitions, imperfections, tape edges, etc. That was before I opened up the easy fillet past. The easy fillet past is really pretty good and I used that. But then I noticed that the came with the quick fair and so I started to use that and i have to say its like icing a cake. And it sands so much faster. And it applies so much smoother. It is some amazing stuff.

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My first comment is that airless sprayers suck when putting on the primer. The sprayer worked well for a bit but when the paint level in the bottle got a little low it would spit the paint instead of spraying it. So I used the old airless sprayer and paint roller to put it on a smooth it down. Not the best. But the first two coats are now on and it looks reasonable. I will need to sand it down a bit then re-apply the primer.
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