XF20 weight

[eb13]

On the study plans page it lists hull weight at DWL 575 lbs and lower on the page it says hull weight as designed 450 lbs. What do these weights mean and if it is built like Hunch in the builders galleries but with a center console what does it weigh?

[jacquesmm]

Built like Hunch's boat, the weigth would be between 3 and 4 tons.


One weight must be without sole and one with? Or then I included accessories.
This boat can weigth anywhere between 450 and 1200 lbs depeneding on the options, the builder's skills, the extra layers of glass some add etc. etc.
With a PPI of 440 lbs, this means that an extra 100 lbs brings the boat down only 1/4".

[Hunch]

Built like Hunch's boat, the weigth would be between 3 and 4 tons.

Best laugh I had all day.

But seriously, my best guess on my rig is 1100 lbs for the hull and rigging
and 350 lbs for the motor.

She draws 3.5 inches at the stern and 2.5 abeam.

[jacquesmm]

Sorry Hunch but I couldn't miss that opportunity.
I remember our arguments about weight . . .
In the end, you built a very nice boat.

[Hunch]

Sorry Hunch but I couldn't miss that opportunity.
I remember our arguments about weight . . .
In the end, you built a very nice boat.

All is forgotten but that comment was priceless. I am glad you like what I did to your XF. It works well in Florida Bay both on the flats and in the deeper areas which can kick up a short chop.

[eb13]

Hutch, I think your design will work well here in Texas. If you don't mind sharing some secrets I'll need some guidance when I get started. With your plate all the way up how shallow can she run? How does she handle light chop? How much "sag" do you get when you take off and how far does it take for you to get up on plane? Oh yea, your boat is awesome! Ed

[eb13]

Sorry, HUNCH.

[Steve in Spring Hill]

I think I might have over emphasized the X for "extreme" with my build of the XF20. Knowing the absolute insane abuse I was going to put mine through, I kept it as light as possible with as much bottom protection possible.

For some these may be old pictures but the proofs in the photo's Jacques designed the best bang for the buck skinny running boat there is period. Any doubters only need to "try" and follow me.



I got out and took photo's of what I just ran through, to give a better view.





Later..............Steve

[Hunch]

Hutch, I think your design will work well here in Texas. If you don't mind sharing some secrets I'll need some guidance when I get started. With your plate all the way up how shallow can she run? How does she handle light chop? How much "sag" do you get when you take off and how far does it take for you to get up on plane? Oh yea, your boat is awesome! Ed

With the plate raised with this 20" motor she will run in 8" and drag the skeg some. If I put a 15" shaft motor on her like I originally setup for, it runs on the morning dew. I opted for the used 110 hp 20" because it was what I could afford.

The boat will sag quite a bit but thats more likely because of the weight of the motor than anything else. But I have never been stuck in too skinny a water not to either pole out or slowly get her up on plane. Humpin over your own wake helps in gettin up in real shallow water.

If ya want to go extra skinny go with a setup like Steves Jet. That thing levitates on mud and works well in the Big Bend waters. ( err swamp )

A hard hole shot will get her up on plane in less than 2 boat lengths.

The hull is the driest flat bottom I ever been in and stable up to 40kts. Gets a little hairy over that. She handles great in all seas but will beat ya up in a head sea with a moderate chop (2 foot or so) A quartering or beam sea is comfortable and I have yet to be in a following sea that caused any plowing. The Florida Bay kicks up a short steep chop and can get rough in 15-20kts of wind.

The XF is a good boat for these waters but I'm glad I stiffened the hull with internal and external runners, decks and sole.

Slides around corners so feathering the throttle is a must. This helps with cavitation on cornering too. All in all a fun ride.

Enjoy yur build.

[eb13]

Steve thats sick! There are a ton of skinny water boats here in Texas but nothing like that. The closest thing is the Flats Cat. On their web site they have some impressive videos. Even if they do run shallow and handle chop well when you stop they draw 5" so it would end up "sitting down" and it would make for a bad day. Hunch, I like the mods you used. I only plan on strayi8ng from your build in two areas, a raised center console and if possible a slightly higher exit from the pocket drive. Any more pointers will be welcomed. Ed