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Post by Sandy Claws »

:doh: I bought this 18ft bayliner bowrider with volvo/penta 270 I/O with a galvanized trailer sometime back. I got a good deal and basically bought it for the trailer for the boat I was going to build. Anyway, I built the XF20 and although it will hold up to a 21ft boat it wouldn't hold the beam. So I bought a new trailer. Now I am looking at this cathedral hull which is in excellant shape exteriorwise, but needs interior rebuilding(rotted) and the 4 cyl volvo doesn't appear to be in runable condition. If it were yours, what would you do with it? Could you convert it to Mercrusier?(as volvo parts are expensive if even available) Or convert it to an outboard with one of those transom brackets?(It is going to need new controls and steering) Or sell the I/o for parts and take my chainsaw to the hull? (I want to keep the trailer for the next boat I build if I don't rebuild the bayliner.) Any ideas :?:

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Post by fishingdan »

Depends if you like the boat and want a boat like that. If you were thinking of repowering it and sell it, I wouldn't bother. If it is a boat you want to keep, bayliners can be good boats once the factory floors (and sometimes stringers) are replaced.

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Post by jayb01 »

Sounds like the proverbial bottomless pit.

If you do spend all that time and money, you'll still have a bayliner -which doesn't have the best reputation in the boating world.

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Not to be pessimistic, but your best bet would be to give the boat away. A Bayliner isn't worth having when new.
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Post by Johnshan »

The problem is with resale- the brand is noteworthy of a cheap boat, they can be had for very little money in good shape with running engines. So as others have said, if you like the boat and are not doing it for resale, have at it, otherwise you will never come out ahead, good luck with your choice :wink:

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Post by Boomer »

A Bayliner isn't worth having when new.
Even if they are built in Georgia

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I enjoyed many years on a 21 foot Bayliner Trophy, large cockpit, much fishing, great deck layout for fishing, even with sometimes 6 people on board. Many stripers went into the well, and many eels blew in the breeze while heading back into the current to do drift runs at Fire Island Inlet. Flounders from the ocean, a couple of sharks, handled rollers well, and landed well, took a beating, good ride, but a bit of a violent roll in a chop, beam to, no great surprise? (What a fourth of July that was! The anchorage wind swung everyone beam to the chop during the fireworks. Too crowded to drop a second hook. The only stable boats were the keel sailboats, mast dampening the motion nicely.) Many good hours and days and nights of fishin' and fun, along with much snoozing and chatting in the cuddy. If a boat holds together and runs well, an important value is what you do with it, including Bayliners, especially if you can't afford a GradyWhite.

Yes, the floor in the stbd side locker needed replacing. Compared to what we got out of it... minor, and it was pretty inexpensive compared to what we got out of her.

It just sold a few weeks ago, and has been out at least five times already. Hope the new owner has as good times as we had in her... I drove by today and he was out again.

Yes...gelcoat was starting to crack a bit. Stringers seemed good, but some plywood elsewhere needed to be watched closely, maybe soon to be replaced. Got to keep the bilge dry in such boats. We got much bang for the buck out of a Bayliner. Fittings were still solid. Did need a new Teleflex (hey, it was 20 years old!).

Is it worth keeping? If you do... Inspect the bilge... keep it dry and clean. If you buy a boat to use as a boat, and not for resale value, if kept shipshape, a Bayliner has a lot to give for what it costs. Redo systems if you want it more perfect, but it is a bit better than a floating dumpster. When it is not kept dry and clean, I suspect the troubles can get ahead of you more quickly than you'd like. Make sure things like cockpit drain hoses are in good shape, else the bilge *will* get wet, very wet, and then the problems come. If the pump is always running, find out why or look out!

Though I am no expert when it comes to very long term maintenance of a Bayliner, I am grateful for the times we had on one. It seemed this thread, after a few more posts, might be heading towards wanting to burn one in effigy. That humble Bayliner helped and towed a few other of them *fancy high resale boats* that broke I/O drives flying across shoals and on the wrong side of channel buoys. :wink:

I speak only of the Trophy... don't know about the lower of the low end models.

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Post by Boomer »

That humble Bayliner
at the end of the day and expenditure of who knows how much money will still be
That humble Bayliner
considering the time, money, and effort (mental and physical) in rehabbing a boat, there are any number of namebrand hulls that are better built, better known, and will have substantially more resale value, without being substantially more expensive to buy as a "project boat".

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Post by supernailman »

Take the boat to a remote location and tie the boat to big tree. Then make sure the boat is not attached to the trailer and drive away. Now you have a trailer.

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Post by ks8 »

Boomer wrote:considering the time, money, and effort (mental and physical) in rehabbing a boat, there are any number of namebrand hulls that are better built, better known, and will have substantially more resale value, without being substantially more expensive to buy as a "project boat".
Yes... all pathos aside.

Have you decided yet? Leaning one way or the other?

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