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Sterling Paint

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:54 pm
by tech_support
This section is being created to provide focussed support for Sterling topcoats. Please read out tutorial on Rolling and Tipping with Sterling Topcoat.......

http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/help/ ... ll_tip.htm

Our goal is to put a professional looking "yacht" finish within the reach of the amateur, whether it be a new boat or a repair.

----We would like to welcome Mark Billingsley of Sterling Coatings as a member top the forum (username: Billingsley)-----

Joel Shine
E-Boat

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:19 pm
by ArizonaBuilder
Our goal is to put a professional looking "yacht" finish within the reach of the amateur,
Wow, a whole forum devoted to a product. Profit margins must be pretty good.

I don't know about everyone else but paint that runs around 300.00 a gallon is not in the range of an amateur. Even with the quoted deep discounts bringing it down to the price of Awlgrip at 200.00 a gallon is not within my budget. I still believe S3 topcoat and primer are the best deals for the money.

It maybe very good paint, but so is a BMW, and you won't see me driving one. We are a bunch of amateur's with amateur budgets and I see this product as something a professional would be using. I think you guys should be pushing products that are affordable.

Now if only you could price it within the reach of an amateur.

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:53 pm
by MadRus
I have to respectfully disagree (a little) with the esteemed member from Arizona. While I agree in general with your point about prices, I think S3 and this stuff compliment each other in the lineup. If I were building a boat right now, yes, I would prefer to get a great "value" out of my finishing products because I'd be on a tight budget.

However, I think you'll find a lot of builders who are looking at repainting a past project and they don't have the tremendous cost of construction looming. They're just looking at the cost of paint as a distinct element. When you view it that way, it doesn't seem as outrageous. I might accept spending $200.00 on a gallon of paint to really bring my boat to another level- finish wise. But if I were just building, then adding that on top of 3,500 or more seems like a bigger deal- to me.

That said, S3 IS, in my opinion, a great value in marine quality finish, and water base, etc., make it my favorite.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:24 am
by tech_support
We want offer supplies for the entire spectrum of finish. This paint is not for everyone, but neither is Silvertip Epoxy, BS1088 Okoume, or brand new engines for that matter.

Its actually a very good value for what you get. Go and get a quote for an awlgrip spay job on your boat. I have seen quotes for over $200 a foot for a full paint job (with primer and all), you can get the same finish here for 1/4 that amount or less.

Joel

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:40 pm
by anonymous
So what ever happened with that canoe? I'd be really interested in seeing some pictures of what that bumpy area in the 4th picture ended up looking like, as well as the whole canoe.

Laszlo

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:59 am
by tech_support
Its in my garage waiting to be finished :( I will take some shots of it and post them.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:51 am
by Laszlo
Know how that happens. Too bad about having to pay the rent, huh? Though in a way , Joel, you have a unique opportunity with your job - you're going to be the only guy on the planet whose $250 canoe will have a $1000 paint job :D

On a more serious note, I read the tutorial a couple of times and tried to calculate just how much it would cost to paint my V12. I'm planning for the entire bottom to be covered with graphite/epoxy (the oyster shells here are pretty nasty) and for the interior to be a combination of brightwork and non-skid. Since the whole point of Sterling seems to be its glossiness, there doesn't seem to be much point in using it in a non-skid finish.

That leaves only the outside sides, which I calculate to be about 60 sq ft of area. So I'm figuring a 1 qt kit for the topcoat. The place where I'm getting into trouble is trying to figure out how much primer I'd need.

On the high build it says 160 sq ft per gallon kit. Is that for 2 coats?

Same thing for the finish primer. Is that 150 sq ft per gallon kit for 2 coats?

So for my best case numbers I'm getting:

1/2 gallon kit high build primer
1/2 gallon kit finish primer
1 qt kit topcoat

Do these numbers sound reasonable?

Thanks,

Laszlo

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:39 am
by tech_support
Yes, I think so if your pretty fair to start. It more than 2 coats though. For the high build the pot life is several hours. So you mix up a pint (or so) then you roll on one coat, then put a cover over the paint and roller and come back in 45 minutes or so for another coat. You end up putting quite bit down and it will fill in a lot of small holes. Next day you sand it and put down another pint (or so).

The finish primer is 1.5 quarts (its 2/1).

Because your topcoat will be so thin, you use less paint compared to S3. the finish primer is white and assuming you have not sanded though it in any spots your paint will go a lot further.

Dont forget the brushing reducer - its the magic ingredient

I think I posted it somewhere, but anyone building a bateau design gets 25% off the prices at BBC. We are putting coupons in all the new plans going out, but the offer is good to all.

Joel

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:55 pm
by Laszlo
Thanks Joel,

I was figuring the brushing reducer in all my numbers already, I just wasn't sure if I was calculating the overall required quantities correctly.

So now I'll go off and crunch the numbers and decide just how much having the shiniest and slickest V12 on the planet is worth to me.

Laszlo

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:16 am
by tech_support
Laszlo wrote: just how much having the shiniest and slickest V12 on the planet is worth to me.
Laszlo
Its worth something to me also, check your email.

Joel

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:28 am
by tech_support
Sterling Paints and Primers.

We want to rotate the inventory before spring kicks off. Sterling topcoats, primers, and reducers will be 50% off list price. To see whats available see this page....

http://boatbuildercentral.com/categories.php?id=48&paint&varnish

The discount code is "sterling50"

This offer can not be used in conjunction with any other coupons, sorry.

Joel

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:58 am
by frazoo
Shine, I am assuming that the discount will last until the old stock is rotated out and only for those colors needing rotation from your current selection in stock? All colors in stock are listed on the order page?

thanks, frazoo

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:18 am
by tech_support
The only thing we are now sold out of is the Ice Blue in one gallon, everything else you see at the store is 50% off. You must type in the discount code at check out "sterling50", the shopping cart will then show the discount :)

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:04 am
by bug_power
can you send a color chart my way?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:06 am
by tech_support
we just ran out, but I will get more.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:08 am
by Q
I'm confused. Is the Sterling High Build Epoxy Primer (U4749) sprayable? Which reducer for spraying then? I'm planning to be at the point of a trip down to get some Quickfare on or about the afternoon of the 16th/March (day after payday :roll: ), and this thread has me thinking primers, now. What's the "Finish" Primer?

Building just a lil' D5...

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:27 am
by tech_support
We only stock the brushing catalyst and brushing reducer. There is a spraying reducer and I can order it and have it within a couple days.

Unless you do a lot of spraying with VOC solvent based paints, you will not get as good a result as you would rolling and tipping. Not to mention the safety and spraying equipment

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:13 pm
by Q
I wouldn't want you to go through all the trouble of getting one little quart of something you don't normally stock....not when I have a West Marine 5 miles away. Joel, what do you think of Sterling's U-1289 Epoxy Reducer? On the West website it didn't specifically state it was for the high-build (4749) primer, but I couldn't find anything in their line that was. I already have all the equipment to spray, even a respirator. I tried "Rolling & Tipping" on my Robalo 5 or 6 years ago with some Brightsides Polyurethane without very good results....probably was me. :oops:

I've worked with Interlux's 216 Interthane special reducer before, but I'm not sure what it would do with a two-part epoxy primer...

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:49 pm
by tech_support
The brushing reducer is for all the primers and paint. The catalyst is different for each primer and paint.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:42 am
by Q
I read your tutorial on the rolling/tipping....I must say I was impressed! As luck would have it, my Income Tax return came in overnight. I placed an order at the order desk this morning for all of the Sterling Primer, Catalyst, and brushing Reducer but it wouldn't accept the "sterling50" discount when put into that discount box?? :doh: And, I tried it all different ways (Upper case, lower case, copy/paste) I want to pick up the order early next week if work permits me to take an afternoon off, enabling the Order desk to process today....

I'll try to check email again at least at lunchtime, but I already know I have a busy Friday ahead...

:help: :help: :help:

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:46 am
by Q
The discount number you entered (STERLING50) was not found, has expired or is not applicable. Please click here if you wish to go back and try again.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:37 am
by tech_support
The 50% is now on the paints and paint catalyst, we sold all the older primer/reducer stock - the 50% was to move out the older paint and bring in new inventory. We are using the "older" paint here on our boats, its still good :!:

There is always a 25% discount for builders of our designs. Enter "sterling25" in the primer/reducer category for that discount, its a permanent deal.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:11 am
by Q
The order desk isn't accepting the 25% discount either...spelled either "sterling25", nor "sterling-bateau25"

Methinks I'll just look at the System3 line a little later on...

Thanks!

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:24 am
by tech_support
Your right, the coupon had expired in the software - I just updated it. You should now be able to do it. Sorry :oops: "sterling25"

Re: Sterling Paint

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:42 pm
by Boater45
Is the 25% off Sterling still active?