AD16 sail costs? Marconi vs Chinese lug

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AD16 sail costs? Marconi vs Chinese lug

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Hello,

The Marconi sail price is listed on the Adelie page but it doesn't show the cost for the modified Chinese lug sail...

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Re: AD16 sail costs? Marconi vs Chinese lug

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Are you lugging it?

You should be able to take the specs from the plans and get a local sail shop to quote one for you. Or maybe I'm thinking of the marconi.
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Yes, it is much safer to bring the sail plan to a local sailmaker.
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Would you are a loved one like to make your own?

https://www.sailrite.com/Sail-and-Canvas-Kits

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Ok thanks everyone. I'll see about finding a company to give me a quote. Not sure if I'd be comfortable making it myself, but then again I am building the boat. Trying to figure out the budget for what remains on the build.

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Go to a marina or yacht club. There will be sailmakers in the advertisement board. Just ask a staff member where that is.

I’d expect the junk sail to be a bit more than Marconi. Especially if you make it “disassemble for reefing” vs standard reefing (not sure the correct term for the reefing method were you remove the panels).
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Jaysen wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:36 pm Go to a marina or yacht club. There will be sailmakers in the advertisement board. Just ask a staff member where that is.

I’d expect the junk sail to be a bit more than Marconi. Especially if you make it “disassemble for reefing” vs standard reefing (not sure the correct term for the reefing method were you remove the panels).
Hi Jaysen! Thank you for the tip. There is a mention on the Adelie page that the lug sail version is cheaper than the Marconi w/ only a small penalty in performance. Not sure which way I'll go but it can't hurt to start thinking about it now. I've sailed with the standard sail before but know almost nothing about the lug version.

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Do some research on how to sail lugs. There’s a lot of positives to it. I’ve not sailed a lug but there’s no real reason not to consider it.

In my research the savings was in rigging and “total sail” required. You have less standing rigging and only the main. While the cost of mains (Marconi main v junk) is higher for junk, you only need one sail for junk rigged boats. That means less running HW and less standing HW.

Take a bit to research the difference in sailing. There are some differences but nothing dramatic.
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Jaysen wrote: Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:59 am Do some research on how to sail lugs. There’s a lot of positives to it. I’ve not sailed a lug but there’s no real reason not to consider it.

In my research the savings was in rigging and “total sail” required. You have less standing rigging and only the main. While the cost of mains (Marconi main v junk) is higher for junk, you only need one sail for junk rigged boats. That means less running HW and less standing HW.

Take a bit to research the difference in sailing. There are some differences but nothing dramatic.
Thank you Jaysen. I appreciate your input.

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Hi Bogie,
If you really want to save money you can engage your wife to make the sail over Winter with the sewing machine. All it costs you then is the sail cloth material and the thread. If you own a sewing machine and like my wife refuses to use it you should try it yourself. It took me nearly 4 weeks to sew my sail but I id it twice. The first try was with white tarpaulin which was difficult to sew and when I had it finished I actually did not like it and ordered proper sailcloth and did the whole sewing job again. All you need is a big room where you can spread out at least parts of the sailcloth for cutting.If it is a success on the sailboat in practical use I will tell you next spring as the weather here is not good enough any more to go sailing. My 2 cents on sail.
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