As trout season nears to a close and the leaves are about done falling, fly-fishing season morphs into fly-tying season for the Mrs, and boating season turns back to boat-building season for me.
We're in full-on prep mode for the spring trip, the one that's been pushed off for 2 seasons already. Elaine is studying up on salt species, patterns, habitats and techniques, and hitting the home gym to get tuned up for the 10k casts she's planning. I'm making some fairly major mods to the skiff, will post some updates when I have some progress.
These are Elaine's first few Red patterns, I suspect she'll be filling a good number of boxes before we head out.
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There are only two seasons in Vermont: boating season, and boat-building season.
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Re: Jeffs FS14 LS
Tell her “shrimp, mullet and mud minnow”. Those are the three main dishes down here.
In April the shrimp will be 3-4”. We fish them under a rattle cork at the edges of the grass or over flats. That or we got trialing red right between the eyes with them.
Mullet should be under 3” over over 6”. These are held about 4” off the bottom right in the weeds I’d drifted on sand bottoms. That time of year… no flounder so weeds. If you see a tailing red hit them right between the eyes with it.
Mud Minnows are 2”-3”. If you think there is a fish stick on there. Trout are more likely to hit these on an out going tide within 3’ of a grass line or 3’ off the lee side of an oyster rake. Red fish… aim for the spot right between the eyes.
If she needs photos to help with patterns, let me know. Can get each pretty easy just need to head into the drink to sang them for you.
In April the shrimp will be 3-4”. We fish them under a rattle cork at the edges of the grass or over flats. That or we got trialing red right between the eyes with them.
Mullet should be under 3” over over 6”. These are held about 4” off the bottom right in the weeds I’d drifted on sand bottoms. That time of year… no flounder so weeds. If you see a tailing red hit them right between the eyes with it.
Mud Minnows are 2”-3”. If you think there is a fish stick on there. Trout are more likely to hit these on an out going tide within 3’ of a grass line or 3’ off the lee side of an oyster rake. Red fish… aim for the spot right between the eyes.
If she needs photos to help with patterns, let me know. Can get each pretty easy just need to head into the drink to sang them for you.
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Seems Jaysen has it down pat. I think on the Atlantic side they use some crab patterns as well. Not sure how useful they are on the Gulf.
Once I wrap the boat up getting back in to fly tying seems like the logical thing to do. I did it a little bit as a kid because my dad would paint and tie poppers, but I never got very good at it.
Once I wrap the boat up getting back in to fly tying seems like the logical thing to do. I did it a little bit as a kid because my dad would paint and tie poppers, but I never got very good at it.
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Time we’ll spent for both of you!
Pop ‘n fly is another trick the locals like. Scaled down version of a popping cork.
Can’t wait to see what you’re cooking up on the boat!
Pop ‘n fly is another trick the locals like. Scaled down version of a popping cork.
Can’t wait to see what you’re cooking up on the boat!
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Great info! Has been passed to the tier, feathers will soon be flying!Jaysen wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:52 am Tell her “shrimp, mullet and mud minnow”. Those are the three main dishes down here.
In April the shrimp will be 3-4”. We fish them under a rattle cork at the edges of the grass or over flats. That or we got trialing red right between the eyes with them.
Mullet should be under 3” over over 6”. These are held about 4” off the bottom right in the weeds I’d drifted on sand bottoms. That time of year… no flounder so weeds. If you see a tailing red hit them right between the eyes with it.
Mud Minnows are 2”-3”. If you think there is a fish stick on there. Trout are more likely to hit these on an out going tide within 3’ of a grass line or 3’ off the lee side of an oyster rake. Red fish… aim for the spot right between the eyes.
If she needs photos to help with patterns, let me know. Can get each pretty easy just need to head into the drink to sang them for you.
There are only two seasons in Vermont: boating season, and boat-building season.
Completed Paul Butler 14' Clark Fork Drifter
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You'll be the Dad painting poppers soon enough!bamaguy0 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:41 am Seems Jaysen has it down pat. I think on the Atlantic side they use some crab patterns as well. Not sure how useful they are on the Gulf.
Once I wrap the boat up getting back in to fly tying seems like the logical thing to do. I did it a little bit as a kid because my dad would paint and tie poppers, but I never got very good at it.
I tried a few flies 25-30 years ago, shelved it along with fly-fishing for whitewater kayaking, which I found much better suited to my patience level at the time.
There are only two seasons in Vermont: boating season, and boat-building season.
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Agreed! I'm like a kid on Christmas eve waiting for a few new "parts" come in!
There are only two seasons in Vermont: boating season, and boat-building season.
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Re: Jeffs FS14 LS
Jeff - what's the shaft length on your trolling motor? Would you want it to be longer or shorter?
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It's 48" and I'm pretty happy with it. Could be shorter, maybe as much as a foot shorter and still work fine, probably more so if your boat is not +10% like mine. The whole thing is a fly-line magnet but that comes with territory.Mojosmantra wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:40 pm Jeff - what's the shaft length on your trolling motor? Would you want it to be longer or shorter?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HB ... UTF8&psc=1
I pm'd you again on the locks, good to go.
There are only two seasons in Vermont: boating season, and boat-building season.
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Good to know. I'm looking at 48" - but good to know 42" would work as well. I've been trying to tell myself that I don't need one, but the truth is I don't think I'd know what to do without one. I do a lot of solo fishing and poling platforms and push poles are pretty useless when your alone.VT_Jeff wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:48 pmIt's 48" and I'm pretty happy with it. Could be shorter, maybe as much as a foot shorter and still work fine, probably more so if your boat is not +10% like mine. The whole thing is a fly-line magnet but that comes with territory.Mojosmantra wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:40 pm Jeff - what's the shaft length on your trolling motor? Would you want it to be longer or shorter?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HB ... UTF8&psc=1
I pm'd you again on the locks, good to go.
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