FS14 new build - South Shore MA

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Nelly wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:48 pm
TomW1 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:31 pm I want fiberglass on all exposed surfaces. I have found that using glass strand in an epoxy mix gives all other surfaces greater protection from water intrusion. It is only $5.85 a lb. and used at 25% per mix adds strength also. Use it to coat all the surfaces not covered by fiberglass. It is in the store. If you don't use it make sure you cover every thing with epoxy.

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If mixing in glass strand with the epoxy - can that still be rolled or brushed or does it need to be handled and applied differently? It must the thicker than straight epoxy but wondering how difficult that makes it to apply across larger surfaces (thinking bench-tops, decking, etc.). Thanks.
No I only use it on interior spaces and on frames and the like and on areas that do not call for cloth. I use about a 15% mix that brushes or rolls on fairly evenly. The strands provide additional protection over pure epoxy.

Reid totally agree cover decking, sole and seats with cloth.

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Slow progress - just welded the stringers down today after grinding out bubbles and rough spots from the full interior glassing a couple of weeks ago. Also drilled. 1.75” hole in the bottom of the transom for the drain plug.

Threw the seat top and forward casting deck on for giggles, just to see how it would look. That inspired me to hang the outboard on the transom to see what it looked like in a more complete stage than it actually is. I like it!
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Looks ready for a test run :D

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Nice progress!! Jeff

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Still making baby step progress. The rain here in New England has not helped this build progress over the past few days. Thought we had a window to do some work yesterday but of course it started to drizzle as soon as the epoxy was mixed…We scrambled a bit, got the boat under cover and got the stringers glassed in.

Now we need to make some layout decisions. Where to put the fuel tank? Should we eliminate the middle bench and have a nice open deck mid-ship? That’s what my partner wants, along with a leaning post and cooler tied-down as a seat. If we do this I know I need to leave 3” of the frames to retain structural integrity. Not sure I trust myself to measure and cut them correctly, though. Might just be simpler to plow ahead with the middle bench in tact, as in the plans.

Overall, I love the lines of this little skiff. She looks pretty good sitting level on the trailer!!!
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Nice!! Jeff

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Sorry to say that there's been very little progress in the past month. Second-rainiest July on record did not make it any easier to build outdoors over the past month, but there's also a lot more going on with my kids and family this July vs. last. Either way, I've got some time over the next few weeks and want to get this project back up and running.

I'm trying to finalize the deck layout, and I spent time today working with PVC pipe to make chase tubes from the middle bench seat back to the stern - one on the outside of both stringers. They will be encased in buoyancy foam, over which I plan to put a sole. I'm wondering how I can seal the holes in the sole through which I'll bring the chase tubes when the epoxy and glass won't adhere to the PVC? I've read some old posts where it's been recommended to just glass over the PVC about 3-6" above where it comes through the deck. I'm having a hard time visualizing how this might be done and can't find any good posts describing (or showing) this process for glassing in chase tubes. I don't want water to get beneath the deck and eventually into the foam.

Anyone have any suggestions, or know of prior builds/posts that would show this in more detail?

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Doesn’t look like a lot of progress; the project has been moving slowly, for sure.

Got all of the bulkheads glassed in place and also installed PVC chase tubes for fuel and electrical running from the mid bench back to the stern.

Working on installing cleats for the sole. Doing this even in areas which will be under the benches - I’m assuming you don’t want to leave foam-filled areas uncovered, even if they’re under a bench seat, etc. Is this overkill or the right way to proceed?

After cleats are in place I’ll be pouring foam in the port and starboard sections, leaving the center open for access and drainage.

After foam goes down, we’ll put the sole down, work on the seat top, casting deck and rear area cover. That’ll mean another round of cleating….. :?

Question - the cleats are simple rough pine 1x2 - do these need to be totally covered in epoxy? They are going to be covered with a sole and seemingly protected from any water, but I suppose moisture could work in and start to rot them eventually If not coated. Maybe I’m answering my own question.

Also, the hot glue method of attaching - is this the easiest way to affix cleats to areas that are unclampable? If so - is there a good how-to on the forum on how to do this while also using thickened epoxy for the permanent attachment?
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Nelly wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:23 pm I'm wondering how I can seal the holes in the sole through which I'll bring the chase tubes when the epoxy and glass won't adhere to the PVC?
What I did was to build some "dams" out of marine plywood that go around the hole in the sole, maybe 4" high, so that standing water on the sole is not working directly on the pvc joint, which is tough to get a seal with as you've learned. You can then bring the pvc through a plywood cap on top of the dam and seal it as you normally would.

This is where my steering cable and electric come through the sole to my "console". I still need to paint it, it didn't make the final cut for my last paint session.
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Rough up the surface of the PVC with 30 or 60 grit sand paper and epoxy mixed with wood flour will stick to it (based on a Cracker Larry recommendation and proven for 10 + years on my OD 18).
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