FS14 new build - South Shore MA

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Re: FS14 new build - South Shore MA

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All of the things mentioned would make life easier. Before I went and got more plywood give what you have a try. It might be crude but brute force also works for some things. Lots of clamps. Drill holes and insert dowels. Might have to use temporary screws. Heck you can even use bolts with large flat washers where you might have put dowels. You have the marine plywood already so give it a try. Try without glue first :wink:

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Nelly, with a circular saw set with the blade just deep enough to cut through ply it's simple to cut the gentle curve you need for the rub rail. You could use lowes stuff but if it were me I'd pick up a sheet of 4mm oukume from boulter plywood in medford ma and cut the rubrails from that, which is basically exactly what I did, using either the leftover cnc piece or the actual sheer as the template. Practice with the circular saw on some scrap first, you'll see how easy it is.
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I've built the FS18, FS14LS, SK14, and GF16, and have not needed to cut the rub rail pieces on a curve. I rip either cedar or fir, preferably knot free, to 1/4" x 1 1/2" and use a lot of clamps. Never needed dowels or screws, just worked down the hull 1 clamp at a time. On the FS18 and FS14 I finished with a 3/8" x 1 1/2" strip of rock hard maple, that I coated with epoxy, than varnished. The FS14, being shorter in length, and with more beam than the Fs18, made the bend at the bow almost impossible, but by not trying to force the strip to bend and twist in 2 directions, I left a gap in the bottom, clamped with wood shims, making the rub rail vertical, or 90 degrees off the deck, if you can visualize what I'm saying. After the flip I filled in the gap with thickened epoxy. I personally think it looks better done this way for a flats style boat with a flat uncambered deck. I'll see if I can post some pics that may help. Good luck, Mike
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Nelly,

I’m building an FS19. I cut three layers of straight 3” strips out of 6mm meranti. They were a little challenging near the bow as the rub rail curves down at first going aft then back up again. I’d start at the bow gluing and clamping as you work toward the stern. You’ll need strong c clamps for the bow work but can use weaker pvc pipe clamps for the straight sections. Here’s two pics of mine but don’t have any pics doing the bow. You need that long piece free to bend into place as you tightly apply the clamp pressure. Just keep your joints in one layer a foot or two away from joints on previous layers. Good luck.
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Thanks for the ideas, all. Seaslug, I can visualize what you're talking about and might give that a shot. I also wondered if it would make sense to just let the rubrail run on a straight line to the bow and then trim the sheer of the plywood sides down to match, essentially lowering the sheer slightly. This might also serve to create a little more of a bay boat look which I’d be ok with.

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I clamp my rub rail after the flip. I don't like the idea of working upside down, not being able to see the sheer line, making sure I don't end up with a droopy bow, or some other problem. much easier to work this way as well.

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Been about a month since the last post. We cut strips, made a rubrail. It seemed way more time consuming that it needed to be, as I had to work with only a few dozen clamps, limiting the amount of rail I could epoxy at a time. But layer after layer, we got it on.

Also have gone through multiple rounds of fairing, and have now put two coats of two-part epoxy primer on the bottom of the boat. And now, without an indoor space to work in the colder weather, I'm reluctant to flip the boat and move forward glassing stringers and frames, knowing that it'll have to sit outside all winter. I think I'd rather have it upside down and covered than sitting open and rightside up, potentially catching rain and snow, etc.

Anyhow, will attach some progress pics shortly. Thanks for all the suggestions on the rail.

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Great progress Bob! Glad the rubrails worked out, fairing /primer look great, that's a huge step! Shame you need to stop for the winter, maybe someone has an unused garage bay in the area?
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After hibernating for the winter, upside down on the jig sitting on saw horses in the backyard, the boat project has come back online I’m happy to say. It first got a coat of paint, then was flipped and put on a refurbished trailer. Got the seams glassed last weekend and got the bottom completely glassed yesterday. Time to move onto stringers and frames.
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Welcome back! I love the sledgehammer, the perfect tool to persuade some trailer springs into position!
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