Cameron's FS14LS+5%

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Cameron's FS14LS+5%

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Hey everyone. Thought I would get my build thread started. I have a thread that I was using to ask questions and get started, but now that the build is going, I figure it fitting to start one in the Builder Progress Forum.

Here the link to my pre-planning thread: https://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65270

A recap of the build so far:
Order placed for starter materials on 9/27. Built the strongback and cut the bow mold and Mold C out of some 1/2 plywood I had laying around the week leading up to driving to Ft. Pierce to pickup materials.

Picked up my order on 10/2. On the way home from BBC, I actually met up with a FB Marketplace seller and purchased a Tohatsu 25HP Short Shaft in pretty good shape. More on that later.

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I had to travel for work the following week, so aside from getting the motor stand built, nothing really happened. I got to work as soon as I returned, though. Since I'm building this in a 2 car garage, I had to perform the next sequence a little different than what I think others had done. With my strong back in one "bay" and a few 2x4's as sacrificial cutting boards in the other, I laid out the panels on the strongback and cut them on the floor. By 10/19 I was done with cutting the hull panels, frames, transom, and stringers. The Frames were mounted onto the strongback at this point.

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Since then, I've spliced the stringers with Butt Blocks.

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This weekend, I've spliced the side panels with fiberglass tape and bonded the 2 transom panels.

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Then just last night, I started the bottom panels splice.

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This afternoon, I flipped the panels and have applied the fiberglass tape to the other side and mounted the transom.

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She's starting to take shape! 8)



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A little on the motor. The motor cover is from a Nissan, but the model number is most definitely a Tohatsu. Circa 1996. I REALLY wanted to snag a 2 stroke Yamaha, but I couldn't beat the price.

It's currently rigged as a poor man's tiller. Previous owner had fabricated a steering handle out of some angle aluminum and a flat bar with a remote throttle control. He was just reaching over the to the gear lever on the side to shift fwd and reverse. I plan to rig it properly for remote control. I want to build a small side console for the boat. I'm going to use this image as inspiration. I've already purchased a 2nd hand Nissan Remote Throttle control for it.

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The motor is in pretty good shape for it's age. Good compression. The previous owner gave it a cheap rattle can spray job. Because it's main intended use is in saltwater, I want to make sure the motor is as protected as possible so over the course of the build process, I plan on stripping it down and recoating, including with the zinc primer. I'll also be giving it a once over to make sure everything is in tip-top shape. Carb rebuild, Water Pump rebuild, and possibly a lower unit seal replacement are on the list, just to be safe.

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Looking good!
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Coming along great Cameron! I'm quite keen to see how your side console works out, it's something I consider often. Once concern I had was the load(me) on one side when alone in such small boat and if it was going to make the boat list/lean/pull. I guess a few batteries on the other side could balance it out, depending on how many batteries you weigh.

I'm a novice builder and can't offer a lot of expertise but I'll tell you a few of my biggest blunders so far with my FS14LS:

1. After stitching and before gluing the side panels, ensure that they are in contact with the frames all the way 'down" to the deck(the boat being upside down). I failed to do this and ended up with a ton of splay.

2. After glassing the bottom, let it cure completely and then knock down all the stitching before starting to fair. This would have saved me a lot of time and material.

Enjoy!

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Nice progress bamaguy0!! Look forward to hearing about your motor as I did not know Nissan had built outboard motors!! Jeff

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VT_Jeff wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:10 pm Coming along great Cameron! I'm quite keen to see how your side console works out, it's something I consider often. Once concern I had was the load(me) on one side when alone in such small boat and if it was going to make the boat list/lean/pull. I guess a few batteries on the other side could balance it out, depending on how many batteries you weigh.

I'm a novice builder and can't offer a lot of expertise but I'll tell you a few of my biggest blunders so far with my FS14LS:

1. After stitching and before gluing the side panels, ensure that they are in contact with the frames all the way 'down" to the deck(the boat being upside down). I failed to do this and ended up with a ton of splay.

2. After glassing the bottom, let it cure completely and then knock down all the stitching before starting to fair. This would have saved me a lot of time and material.

Enjoy!

Jeff
Good tips! I'll be sure to note that! I did notice the stitching in my panel splices and how big and rough it is. That would not be fun to fill and fair!

Regarding the side console, I plan to do some CG calulations when I'm laying out the locations of hatches and equipment. Here are a few things I've thought about so far.

I don't expect to go out alone very often, but when I do, I don't see shifting closer to the center that big of a deal. I had an old Ashcraft 14 ft boat a while back that had a side console but you kinda had to ride closer to center. It was about the same beam as well. I don't mind this. Just didn't want a full blown center console taking up floor space.

Live/baitwell. I would like to incorporate a baitwell into the boat. Maybe an ideal location is the port side aft deck. It would act as ballast when I am alone. I don't see making much more than a 5 gallon well though, so impact would be minimal.

I do intend on having a buddy or my wife ride next to me when they come along. That means I will need to plan on having as much weight forward as possible. Fuel tank and batteries will be under the forward deck and I do want to have a trolling motor so that will add some more weight forward.

If I'm way off base I'd love to be called out now before I get too far along, but I know I've seen similar sized boats with small side consoles, so I don't think I'm way out in left field on this one.

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bamaguy0 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:20 pm I do intend on having a buddy or my wife ride next to me when they come along.
Great point, I had not thought of that. it puts both of you fairly far back. I'm great at throwing out generally bad ideas, so, maybe move the console a little forward and use some fold-down/fold-forward jump seats to move both parties a little forward.
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You'll probably want to move your poling platform so the weight of the person poling is directly above, or better yet, just forward of the outboard. I've never seen or poled a flats skiff with a platform so far aft, and it could cause the boat to squat. Just something to consider. Build on. Mike

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Appreciate that feedback Mike, I had suspected it may raise some eyebrows like that. My hope is to keep the rear deck usable for casting and have a platform as well, which is why I have it so far back, but I'll look to move it forward, if it's over the engine it shouldn't take up much working room.
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VT_Jeff wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:09 am Appreciate that feedback Mike, I had suspected it may raise some eyebrows like that. My hope is to keep the rear deck usable for casting and have a platform as well, which is why I have it so far back, but I'll look to move it forward, if it's over the engine it shouldn't take up much working room.
I agree with seaslug keep the platform over the motor. Tom
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