Ice Boat planning.....

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cape man wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:22 pm Go big!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzf-jeKhk4Q
Wow! That's not too far from me, I may need to go check those guys out this winter, looks incredible!
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Being from Florida I had no idea what an 'ice boat' was. Just Googled it and wow that looks cool. Good luck!
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Have friends visiting for 10 days so not doing much on projects then it turned cold again... Too cold to do much in the tent at -20f

I did get the two hull sides layer out to look at the shape I think I'm happy with, 2x 2x6s 16ft long. Probably need a spacer and some relief at the front, was using an unblocked c-clamp and it tried to splinter and punch through. Still thinking about it.

Laminated up the rear runner beam, 2x 1x6s 12ft long and a 2x6 8ft long. Might be stiffer than needed but will secure the shrouds at the outboard ends of the 2x6.

Still need to laminate the front runner spring board, I have 3x 1x6s 8ft long, will decide if going with 2 or 3 based on how the ends of the main beam feel. I'm guessing just the 2 though.
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When building something like this, do you build it to float if it falls through the ice? Do you wear PFDs along with the crash helmet? Is there any governing bodies that require how the ice boat is built? Can you and are you covered by any kind of liability insurance if you hit someone or something?
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The answer to all of that is no. Which is both a good and a bad thing :)

I am extremely conservative when it comes to the ice here, I never go out until it has frozen very thick and has been explored by younger or stupider people.

Some plans call for putting foam in the hull and under the seat, but most are open frames with no flotation beyond the lumber it's made of.
I feel that a good helmet and making sure there are people around is much more important than flotation for where we are.
(of course I could be wrong, but that's the assessment I have made)

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This will be a very interesting build!!! I have no experience with Ice Boats!!! Nice NARFI!!!! Jeff

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I feel that a good helmet and making sure there are people around is much more important than flotation for where we are.
(of course I could be wrong, but that's the assessment I have made)
May want to consider a good PFD. I ref a game called kayak polo. It is like rugby on the water. So they are also helpful as body armor.
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Here are a few different classes of iceboats, more modern with carbon fiber though some are composite with some wood. Narfi there is one set of antique runners on there you might be interested in. https://www.iceboatracing.com/used-iceboats/ Though you might prefer a modern set of SS runners.

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OrangeQuest wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:35 pm
I feel that a good helmet and making sure there are people around is much more important than flotation for where we are.
(of course I could be wrong, but that's the assessment I have made)
May want to consider a good PFD. I ref a game called kayak polo. It is like rugby on the water. So they are also helpful as body armor.
To be honest, if you fall through the ice out where Narfi lives, all that a PFD is going to accomplish is making body recovery possible. As for armor, keep in mind he is going to have many layers of winter gear on, out on the ice in the wind. Doesn't really sound like my idea of a good time although I hope he gets some video.

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Doesn't really sound like my idea of a good time although I hope he gets some video.
I would go for it in a heart beat! The videos I have seen make it look just plain awesome! Like normal boating, you don't have to break a speed record to have a lot of fun. The whole concept is a testament to human ingenuity.

Found this on Wikipedia searching the history of ice boats. 17th century Netherlands...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceboat#/ ... katers.jpg

I'm enjoying the build. The "frame" looks solid from here.
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